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On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 07:38:54 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 4/7/2025 8:07 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 4/7/2025 11:32 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>> On 4/7/2025 9:13 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 4/7/2025 5:55 AM, zen cycle wrote:
>>>>> On 4/6/2025 8:13 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/6/2025 12:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All shifting completes, now, at least on the work stand. It's 
>>>>>>>> still seems a bit noisy and hesatant, but the job gets done. On 
>>>>>>>> Sun, 6 Apr 2025 12:59:52 -0400, Frank Krygowski 
>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/6/2025 8:13 AM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 07:46:16 -0400, zen cycle
>>>>>>>>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Exceptions abound within all non-white or non-male examples. 
>>>>>>>>>> This in no
>>>>>>>>>> way affects the facts around institutionalized racism in this 
>>>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Although perhaps not as obvious but what is basically "racism" 
>>>>>>>>> exists
>>>>>>>>> in many societies. As an example, here (Thailand) Americans are
>>>>>>>>> generally considered rather stupid and are normally over charged.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree that racism is extremely common throughout the world. I once
>>>>>>>> read that human societies (from tribes up to nations) tend to 
>>>>>>>> welcome
>>>>>>>> single foreigners as interesting temporary visitors, but tend to get
>>>>>>>> much more skeptical when, say, clusters show up to move in. And when
>>>>>>>> larger numbers arrive, it's treated as an "invasion."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The U.S. is an oddball country. Its origin was based on (mostly
>>>>>>>> inadvertently) killing off the aboriginals, leaving much of the land
>>>>>>>> unclaimed; then on importing (mostly) Europeans in wave after 
>>>>>>>> wave to
>>>>>>>> make productive use of the land.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But each new wave went through the "invasion" gauntlet. "No Irish 
>>>>>>>> Need
>>>>>>>> Apply" and all that. But most - Irish, German, Italian, Polish, 
>>>>>>>> etc. -
>>>>>>>> were eventually able to blend in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those of African origin could not blend in unless they were white 
>>>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>> to "pass." They're still considered part of an "invasion." And 
>>>>>>>> yes, that
>>>>>>>> attitude has been in our institutions for a long, long time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But racism in the USA today is most commonly practiced by so called
>>>>>>> "people of color" and their white sycophants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>>>> Soloman
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> horse shit
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps only because I am near to Chicago and familiar with Chicago 
>>>> culture and politics, I think you discount Screwy Louie Farrakhan and 
>>>> his ilk.
>>>
>>> And yet....
>>>
>>> https://michiganadvance.com/2024/07/22/we-love-hitler-we- love-trump- 
>>> white-supremacists-march-through-howell/
>>>
>>> https://www.ctpublic.org/2025-01-10/nh-supreme-court-sides- with- 
>>> white-supremacist-group-over-highway-banner-in-portsmouth
>>>
>>> https://www.brennancenter.org/events/do-police-care-about- white- 
>>> supremacist-violence
>>>
>>> https://www.wyomingpublicmedia.org/politics- government/2025-01-08/u- 
>>> s-attorneys-office-yellowstone- gunman-espoused-white-supremacist-views
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> Just saw this on the subject of racism and mental illness. Her writings 
>> were suppressed for two years before finally leaking out.
>> 
>> https://nypost.com/2025/04/07/us-news/trans-nashville-school-shooter- 
>> audrey-hale-ranted-about-wanting-to-kill-all-the-white-kids-in-newly- 
>> revealed-diary-entries/
>> 
>
>Specious use of 'suppressed' duly noted and dismissed as specious, and 
>it wasn't for two years.
>
>https://www.foxnews.com/us/judge-orders-fbi-hand-over-trans-school-shooter-audrey-hale-manifesto
>
>Also duly noted is the conflation of the act of an obviously disturbed 
>individual versus a movement in the US:
>
>https://www.adl.org/new-hate-and-old-changing-face-american-white-supremacy
>
>and the (at best) complacency of the current US regime:
>
>https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hosted-white-supremacist-nick-fuentes-mar-a-lago-reports-2022-11?op=1

	Trump was taken "by surprise" when the Nazis showed up to
dinner. Wonder who invited them. Musk, maybe?

	PS Can people even "turn up to dinner" at the White House? Is
there no filtering ? Surprised hobos don't turn up for a free dinner.
Or even curious people. "Wonder what the POTUS eats"....
	[]'s
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