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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup1) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Cray style vectors Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 17:13:38 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <fcea0650cf69a0f092d64d699ca21acc@www.novabbs.org> References: <upq0cr$6b5m$1@dont-email.me> <uqge2p$279ql$1@dont-email.me> <uqhiqb$2grub$1@dont-email.me> <uqlm2c$3e9bp$1@dont-email.me> <uqmn7c$3n35k$1@dont-email.me> <2024Feb16.082736@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <uqnmue$3o4m9$1@dont-email.me> <2024Feb16.152320@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <uqobhv$3o4m9$2@dont-email.me> <1067c5b46cebaa18a0fc50fc423aa86a@www.novabbs.com> <uqpngc$3o4m9$3@dont-email.me> <uqpuid$bhg0$1@dont-email.me> <2024Feb17.190353@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <uqqvkc$i2cu$1@dont-email.me> <uqvk2o$1snbf$1@dont-email.me> <ur1h0v$emi4$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> <86r0h6wyil.fsf@linuxsc.com> <ur7v2r$ipnu$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> <861q91ulhs.fsf@linuxsc.com> <urkbsu$34rpk$1@dont-email.me> <864jdcsqmn.fsf@linuxsc.com> <usp8lp$7i96$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1749555"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="PGd4t4cXnWwgUWG9VtTiCsm47oOWbHLcTr4rYoM0Edo"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: ac58ceb75ea22753186dae54d967fed894c3dce8 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$JkaOhZC1d4gSBkJnMnbTk.5.4Hph4A56MqRi/0GqIMcYi9ZDfTEoy Bytes: 2828 Lines: 31 Terje Mathisen wrote: > Tim Rentsch wrote: >> Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@tmsw.no> writes: >> >>> If I really had to write a 64x64->128 MUL, with no widening MUL or >>> MULH which returns the high half, then I would punt and do it using >>> 32-bit parts (all variables are u64): [...] >> >> I wrote some code along the same lines. A difference is you >> are considering unsigned multiplication, and I am considering >> signed multiplication. >> > Signed mul is just a special case of unsigned mul, right? The low order N bits are all the same while the higher order N bits are different; where N is operand size. > I.e. in case of a signed widening mul, you'd first extract the signs, > convert the inputs to unsigned, then do the unsigned widening mul, > before finally resotirng the sign as the XOR of the input signs? SW may have to do that, HW does not. > There is a small gotcha if either of the inputs are of the 0x80000000 > form, i.e. MININT, but the naive iabs() conversion will do the right > thing by leaving the input unchanged. > At the other end there cannot be any issues since restoring a negative > output sign cannot overflow/fail. > Terje