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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Gravitational time dilation HOAX along the years Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 22:38:19 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <fd0a21b934e36cd61caaa1309943698a@www.novabbs.com> References: <84deac76f160f1f681f5275e10d7e683@www.novabbs.com> <wZqcnbZJrLmAZvz6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <ac377b307db816a8230b09bfeb4f602e@www.novabbs.com> <676691eb$2$12916$426a74cc@news.free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="766719"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="HcQFdl4zp4UQRQ9N18ivMn6Fl9V8n4SPkK4oZHLgYdQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$URDJd6AyqGkJ628lt5WJ6.lUIPlZJGpjiqAOwEzO4pt973fG5dMa2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: a2f761a7401f13abeefca3440f16b2f27b708180 Bytes: 2179 Lines: 27 On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 10:01:16 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote: > LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: > >> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 22:28:45 +0000, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> >>> On 12/17/2024 11:50 AM, rhertz wrote: >>>> EXCERPTS FROM EINSTEIN'S 1911 PAPER: On the Influence of Gravitation on >>>> the Propagation of Light > [snip] >>> Actually space-contraction after motion was arrived >>> at long before that, where what you're looking at >>> is ten different things mashed into a muddy wad, >>> and what you're looking at is what _you're_ seeing. > >> Length contraction was one of the first proposed solutions for saving >> the ether from the MMX, and was the first discarded as ad hoc nonsense, >> and rightly so. > > Until Lorentz made it respectable, > by deriving it from his electron theory. > So it is usually called Lorentz contraction these days, > (or Lorentz-Fitzgerald) > > Jan It's still ad hoc fiction because nothing can cause all lengths to change in unison when all materials are different, least of all relative motion.