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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:54:53 -0400
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:42:08 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 3/21/2025 5:44 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:43:13 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:11:10 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 17:05:24 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/21/2025 4:49 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:28 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 2:23 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 13:20:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/21/2025 8:40 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/20/2025 11:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the far right still maintains its world view by ignoring
>>>>>>>>>>>> all relevant facts it dislikes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> An universal trait, across all ideologies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I strongly disagree. "Univeral" seems to imply "everybody" of "all
>>>>>>>>>> ideologies." I think complete dismissal of facts is far, far more
>>>>>>>>>> common
>>>>>>>>>> on the right.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What's more common universally is to disagree on the relative
>>>>>>>>>> importance
>>>>>>>>>> of various bits of data. And there were long periods in U.S. history
>>>>>>>>>> when that was the main subject of disputes - which data set is more
>>>>>>>>>> significant? Which facts should get more attention? Which issues are
>>>>>>>>>> more important?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We're far beyond that now, at least with the right wing. Once a Trump
>>>>>>>>>> administration invented "alternative facts" verifiable data went
>>>>>>>>>> out the
>>>>>>>>>> window. The right now has a strong tendency to blatantly invent
>>>>>>>>>> "facts"
>>>>>>>>>> to justify its ideas. Vance essentially confessed to that, regarding
>>>>>>>>>> small town Ohio pets being eaten by immigrants, claiming it was OK to
>>>>>>>>>> "create stories" - IOW, outright lie. Musk is "finding" billions and
>>>>>>>>>> billions of dollars of fraud that regularly disappears whenever anyone
>>>>>>>>>> else looks into the details.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your efforts today are less blatant, but related: "Here's _one_
>>>>>>>>>> glacier
>>>>>>>>>> that grew, so we should ignore the immense worldwide shrinking of
>>>>>>>>>> almost
>>>>>>>>>> all glaciers." And "Land here is slowly sinking, so we should ignore
>>>>>>>>>> worldwide satellite measurements showing oceans rising."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I recall hearing that Joe Biden is so sharp that his staff can't keep
>>>>>>>>> up with him.  That Trump went to Russia and had women pee on him. That
>>>>>>>>> there was choice but to pack up and leave Afghanistan the way it was
>>>>>>>>> done.  That there was no way to close the border without Congressional
>>>>>>>>> action. That Hunter Biden would not be pardoned. (etc)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Both sides lie. Both sides make up "Facts." Both sides fund their pet
>>>>>>>>> projects. Both sides are crooks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Speaker Pelosi to Congress
>>>>>>>>> "We need to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leave it to the dumbass to intentionally conflate politics with science.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dishonesty may be among our smaller problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ms Pelosi also said (clearly and correctly) that Mr Biden could not
>>>>>>>> waive student loans without an Act of Congress.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Merely being truthful and correct had no affect on what actually
>>>>>>>> happened, as Mr Biden bragged about subsequently defying the direct
>>>>>>>> Supreme Court ruling.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, he didn't. He said "we'll have to find another way to do it".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And then continued anyway, misusing a 'special cases' provision for
>>>>>> large classes of borrowers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People (me) who worked two jobs to pay tuition at retail in cash were
>>>>>> miffed at least.
>>>>>
>>>>> Must have felt the same way my cousin did when the drinking age in
>>>>> Massachusetts was lowered to 18 the day after he turned 21.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not the way life turns sometimes - I learned to live with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> My loans were paid off long ago, but I thought student loan forgiveness
>>>>> was a great idea, and still do. One of the reasons this country lags in
>>>>> education is that we make it hard to get one. It's why Musk wants to
>>>>> keep the H1B program going, and convinced trump to make it so - couple
>>>>> that with this asinine thought that the government shouldn't be involved
>>>>> in education, and it's no wonder American companies need to have foreign
>>>>> students.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's smacks of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
>>>>
>>>> Plumbers, truck drivers, and construction workers paying off college
>>>> graduates' loans. Well of course.....
>>>
>>> 	Charge it to people that have hundreds of billions of dollars.
>>> They probably won't even notice.
>>> 	[]'s
>> 
>> They already pay most of the income taxes...  and also, most of the
>> wages.
><sob> The poor dears! Is there anything we can do to lighten their load? /s

They're not complaining. It's people like you who complain.

--
C'est bon
Soloman