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Le 25/01/2025 à 23:25, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> W dniu 25.01.2025 o 23:10, Python pisze:
>> Le 25/01/2025 à 22:50, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
>>> W dniu 25.01.2025 o 22:11, Python pisze:
>>>> Le 25/01/2025 à 22:05, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a 
>>>> écrit :
>>>>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025 0:39:40 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/24/2025 2:11 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 22:24:04 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/23/2025 2:20 PM, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 21:47:25 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 18:05:49 +0000, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is said that simple people are sometimes impressed by glass
>>>>>>>>>>>> baubles.
>>>>>>>>>>>> How do cheap and stupid, fallacious ideas violating basic logic
>>>>>>>>>>>> attain
>>>>>>>>>>>> prestige values and become marketed at universities for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> fortunes? The
>>>>>>>>>>>> reification fallacy is an elementary fallacy and a foolish error
>>>>>>>>>>>> that a
>>>>>>>>>>>> child would know better than. However, we find universities
>>>>>>>>>>>> convincing
>>>>>>>>>>>> people that ideas involving this error are highly intelligent,
>>>>>>>>>>>> such as
>>>>>>>>>>>> expanding and bending space. Then, people uncritically and
>>>>>>>>>>>> thoughtlessly
>>>>>>>>>>>> embrace these ideas without a second thought. This is very 
>>>>>>>>>>>> pathetic,
>>>>>>>>>>>> slavish, and avoidable.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> They become marketed at universities for fortunes by 
>>>>>>>>>>> the ...'textbooks
>>>>>>>>>>> monopoly'.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (of course the teachers textbooks come with the answers)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You need to investigate the 'textbooks monopoly' cartel.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The cabal decides what they want you to think.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How many planets are there? Who decides the answer for you? A 
>>>>>>>>>>> cabal.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The really amusing thing is that people are intellectual 
>>>>>>>>>> weaklings who
>>>>>>>>>> couldn't reason themselves out of a paper bag, or they wouldn't 
>>>>>>>>>> accept
>>>>>>>>>> curved space for a second.
>>>>>>>>> Did you ever acknowledge my point that Einstein should have 
>>>>>>>>> understood
>>>>>>>>> that parallel lines would have to meet for space to curve? Isn't it
>>>>>>>>> stupid as hell not to recognize that? If he had been an honest and
>>>>>>>>> forthright person, he would have said we have to presume that 
>>>>>>>>> parallel
>>>>>>>>> lines meet to claim space is curved, and this is our derivation 
>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>> doubling of the Newtonian deflection. Then, every reasonable person
>>>>>>>>> would have balked at such an irrational assumption and 
>>>>>>>>> recognized him as
>>>>>>>>> a foolish fellow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Think of drawing two horizontal lines on a spheres surface. They 
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> never intersect.
>>>>>>> You presume space can be treated as a surface. That is a petitio
>>>>>>> principii. You presume it's curved to conclude it's curved. It's 
>>>>>>> not a
>>>>>>> surface and its not curved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it was curved a bit, then I can see how two parallel lines might
>>>>>> intersect at a point at infinity, so to speak, in a strange sense. 
>>>>>> It's
>>>>>> strange to me. When I plot field individual lines in one of my
>>>>>> experimental fields, they never intersect even though they twist and
>>>>>> turn through the field...
>>>>> Fields can curve while space cannot.
>>>>
>>>> "Laurence", what is your level of education in maths? Just asking.
>>>
>>>
>>> But whatever you say - Poincare had enough wit
>>> to understand how idiotic rejecting Euclid
>>> would be, and he has written it clearly
>>> enough for anyone able to read (even if not
>>> clearly enough for you)
>> 
>> Still confused Woz? 
> 
> No, Pyt.

Still you are.

>> Nobody is "rejecting Euclid" 
> 
> A lie. Of course.

Because you say so? I checked: nobody is "rejecting Euclid".

> BTW, so, how do you recognize a space geodesic?

If you want to know, learn. Information sources are free.

> Still no answer, poor stinker? For sure,
> spitting and slandering the enemies of your
> church is much easier than answerring their
> questions, isn't it?

Why would people lost time in trying to educate, in vain, idiotic kooks of 
your kind Woz?

I'm sad for nurses who have to clean your dirty pants every morning. But 
there is nothing I can do about that, unfortunately.

BTW, Woz, what is your level of education in math? :-)