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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 16:52:19 +0000 From: Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: PTD was the most-respected of the AUE regulars ... Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 12:52:19 -0400 Message-ID: <fk8aajpcod5eeq8okojbonqtslbnujm92m@4ax.com> References: <uvej5e$34pfl$8@dont-email.me> <v7mdjl$pq7n$3@dont-email.me> <nbcu9j5d7r8gbdngudbti83dg4agsl6knb@4ax.com> <v7u9oq$2dgbs$2@dont-email.me> <h316ajtor5bl617eb6hj50fda24gu0dd3u@4ax.com> <v7vo2i$2ou11$1@dont-email.me> <l0j9aj5dn44utrbn005f7h0cvtthnm4eqn@4ax.com> <v82kea$3bv95$1@dont-email.me> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 49 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-cD65T6AiqGtW4t84pCA5orPwP4T9UGHNgnLYd12yMCHNtWXEbbMzjYAbGV9Dxkt5T5sWxwImGbSi58E!hrNCyYrnsV6CcO2Ccqk6RL5FXqqQyvBUsaGQfRdN/H6EAKN6BmJ1oyl2mOrXkzsDlA8pVPE= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3461 On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 21:07:49 +1000, Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote: >On 27/07/24 20:32, Steve Hayes wrote: > >> [PTD] would pronounce that something someone else had said was >> wrong, when it wasn't and continue to insist on it even when several >> people had produced evbidence that it was true. > >The Australian coat of arms shows a kangaroo and an emu holding a >shield. These two animals have something in common: they cannot walk >backwards. Their anatomy does not allow it. > >That was PTD's problem. When caught in an error, he was completely >incapable of backing out. His only option was to dig a deeper hole. > >He's the only person I've encountered with such a severe form of this >disability. Some others came close, but they got out of the impasse by >responding with a non sequitur. Anecdote: The great mathmetician/statistician Karl Pearson was also the first editor of Biometrika (for 35 years). He described what we know as the Pearson chisquared test -- but for a few years, he insisted that it had 3 degrees of freedom, not 1. And he refused to publish the folks who argued (what he finally conceded) for 1. This is frequent a characteristic of Aspergers Syndrome (which is a diagnosis no longer in the book; too bad). I learned about autism and Aspergers when trying to figure out what was wrong with a bright fellow who started contributing and arguing in the statistics groups. He also refused to reread what was written, to see that he got something wrong, which happened fairly often. - He was a smart mathematician but he had no experience with research, which is where the questions cam from. Also typical for the autistic spectrum --he frequently called people 'stupid' and 'liar'. STUPID meant he didn't understand what was said, and LIAR meant he thought it was 'obviously' wrong. Oh, a lot of autistics have trouble (for instance) in learning to 'choose the best answer' on multiple choice when unsure, because endorsing an answer that they are not sure of feels too much like lying, which they avoid (and are very bad at). -- Rich Ulrich