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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: New Bike Path Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2024 06:57:11 +0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <fn469jle66ns0qes1ofltqpmoguihrrs1b@4ax.com> References: <mils8jties8nmln4sitgs3dfn2si5kv856@4ax.com> <mEDjO.28498$3qya.4354@fx05.ams4> <rf5u8jh4g619da9c5s4nlbsbkdhphv42qc@4ax.com> <5UPjO.27230$zXH9.13695@fx01.ams4> <etjv8jlj9nngkc8c198gf89np71i55sc2m@4ax.com> <v6oskl$2frbh$1@dont-email.me> <z9VjO.57191$VBH2.30514@fx16.ams4> <v6qu9q$2jvdo$1@dont-email.me> <v6tqe7$3ih7q$4@dont-email.me> <v6u41v$3kevu$2@dont-email.me> <7v559j1bs0ia511gls5thk96njrfearrl7@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2024 01:57:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7a710cbd75535915a83dc452c74cda1d"; logging-data="4005461"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+BeNBcG2iqAfCUCoZZFGG+pZ5VCpJVfg4=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.10.32.1212 Cancel-Lock: sha1:T4FS/bRR2tMBzcVOlv/91MCX6as= Bytes: 2567 On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 11:08:02 -0400, Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 10:47:26 -0400, Frank Krygowski ><frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >>On 7/13/2024 8:03 AM, zen cycle wrote: >>> On 7/12/2024 5:50 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> At the place where you see the van leaving the fuel station, I have >>>> twice witnessed exactly the same accident: a car from the roundabout >>>> wanted to enter the fuel station and did not look for cyclists coming >>>> "the wrong direction" hit a cyclist at low speed. >>> >>> IMHO that's at/near the top of the list of the problems with bike >>> lanes/paths parallel to the roadway - Drivers looking out for on-coming >>> traffic don't look the other way for the path users >> >>Exactly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k6-AI_X1qE > >If you're afraid to ride there, It's OK with me. I won't try to change >your mind. One of the things that seem a bit odd, as in the above video, is, "doesn't the bicycle rider have to look around to avoid autos? After all, inattention is one of the leading cause of auto crashes and yet many cyclists seem to assume the auto driver is the one that is supposed to see him, rather then the cyclist see the auto. -- Cheers, John B.