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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Circuit Symbol Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 15:46:46 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 56 Message-ID: <frb9mjha42ffs3v1um7s7l582j8823mqgk@4ax.com> References: <nm66mjtuj8rs2ae4f4703d8q3lf0vl70ek@4ax.com> <j686mjlf98ba5l2tstkb5u25l2mnvkk1gm@4ax.com> <jsn6mjpssnkgvdi2d3009mvce0gc6utroh@4ax.com> <86q6mj59dfa4q39fsoj3a1kp75lu26415t@4ax.com> <s0s6mj5jm5shffuahs9ri2f8358a5h1vf4@4ax.com> <mt37mj9o1i8o456g9fco88a55400badvkg@4ax.com> <vk1d02$2tgag$1@dont-email.me> <6hj8mjh23amgp1kfb5vjcq1nol787afv1g@4ax.com> <vk2088$311af$1@dont-email.me> <2979mj96add5j47osig7hnfjrn705a1ovt@4ax.com> <vk27bm$32bpt$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 00:43:39 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9b61f7c7d314071d053361f26c945744"; logging-data="3248487"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18uocJiJVzMUM3lP2HDtV3/" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:kj6aCkMO0gKLdzzFEDdL0ve85to= Bytes: 3163 On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 22:39:51 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:38:33 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs >> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>> john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 09:09:54 -0600, Dennis <dennis@none.none> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 12/18/24 21:20, john larkin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I vaguely recall that they oscillated at somethig over 100 Hz. I >>>>>> powered an old car radio with 60 Hz instead of the vibrator, and the >>>>>> radio's step-up transformer ran hot. >>>>>> >>>>> They ran at a frequency as high as reasonable for a mechanical device. >>>>> This allowed for a smaller transformer. >>>> >>>> Vibrating contacts were the first switching regulators. Auto >>>> generators - before alternators - used a hysteretic oscillating >>>> contact closure to drive the field coil. That was very efficient and >>>> not especially reliable. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Especially when made by Lucas. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Phil Hobbs >> >> The brits traditionallty split their motorcycle crankcases vertically, >> to maximize oil leakage through the gaskets. >> >> Those dumb Japanese, Honda and Kawasaki, split their crankcases >> horizontally, which required us to change the oil, not just add it. >> >> > >Everything designed in Britain in the 1960s was legally required to leak >oil. That includes the Concorde and the QE II. > >I suspect Shell was at the bottom of it. > >Cheers > >Phil Hobbs I rode the QE2 from NYC to France once. I had scheduled an engine room tour but that was canceled because they'd had a fire. Our trip took an extra day too, limping along. Never rode the Concorde, which is just as well.