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From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
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Subject: Re: Dispatches from Clown World: Actual NY Times Headline
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 15:44:01 -0400
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:41:20 +0000, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>On Mar 26, 2024 at 4:04:09 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3/25/24 8:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> 
>>>  Wait a minute. Trump's civil fraud verdict was based on the notion he
>>>  systematically gave an incorrect valuation to his properties in order to
>>>  deceive lenders (even though all lenders were repaid and none of them ever
>>>  made complaints against him and all said they'd do business with him again).
>>>  
>>>  Now, the New York Times admits that reaching a proper valuation for Trump's
>>>  buildings is a "guessing game".
>> 
>> Bullshit.  He lied.
>> 
>> For loans, he inflated his valuations.  For taxes, he lowered his 
>> valuations.
>
>So when Trump takes out a loan and pays it back with interest, that's a
>crime.

As Jon Stewart pointed out in his video Trump did pay the loan back
with interest but much less than he would have if he had given the
properties the proper valuation. Which amounted to a lot due to the
sums involved.