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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2025 08:47:47 -0700
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 17:42:34 -0700, Bobbie Sellers
<bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

>On 6/26/25 12:32, William Hyde wrote:
>> Paul S Person wrote:

<snippo -- reference is to "Senior Service" as the British Navy and a
cigarette brand>

>>> Very likely. Cigs for tars, how nice.
>
>	Tars for tars.
>>=20
>> The ads were more about officer-class types, officer class being in=20
>> those early days always upper class as well.
>
>	Well of course they were upper class in most nations as why would
>entrust a peasant with an expensive ship and crew.
>	Education was not evenly distributed then or now.

Just a note: I rather think William Hyde's point is that they were for
/officers/, not tars (who were common seamen).
--=20
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