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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 11:50:53 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 06:50:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: I call it a halting decidability decider Newsgroups: comp.theory References: <v8o47a$3ml4$1@dont-email.me> <v8q19o$iqvb$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US From: olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com> In-Reply-To: <v8q19o$iqvb$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <g7idnfxFzNYAIS37nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 44 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-7hglYxWOWW29j+2G8agS3GvJGOohaYnIhB2lx3rXHoLujMf3Oux2nBDJMltFmTRIdpqiyxJweHk+iDv!55uL51pKxDwQMcW4ev3awj58SStw+tKxnhNZOAhvVtfI7Ho5UEJzjh/gSBzqCozkqLcFDcD5BBY= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2484 On 8/5/2024 3:08 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-08-04 14:46:02 +0000, olcott said: > >> When we define an input that does the opposite of whatever >> value that its halt decider reports there is a way for the >> halt decider to report correctly. >> >> int DD() >> { >> int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >> if (Halt_Status) >> HERE: goto HERE; >> return Halt_Status; >> } >> >> int main() >> { >> HHH(DD); >> } >> >> HHH returns false indicating that it cannot >> correctly determine that its input halts. >> True would mean that its input halts. > > That is called a "partial halt decider". The set of requirements is > a subset of the requirements for "halt decider" but still require > that the answer is not "halts" if the input does not halt and that > the answer is not "does not halt" if the input halts. The difference > is that a "halt decider" is required to give one of these answers > for every input but a "partial halt decider" is not. > > For every computation there is a partial halt decider that answers it. > I call it a halting decidability decider. 1=input halts 0=input does not halt or has pathological relationship with its decider -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer