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Path: ...!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.brightview.co.uk!news.brightview.co.uk.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 03:15:42 +0000 Subject: Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Newsgroups: comp.theory References: <vsn1fu$1p67k$1@dont-email.me> <7EKdnTIUz9UkpXL6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <vsng73$27sdj$1@dont-email.me> From: Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 04:15:39 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vsng73$27sdj$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <gGKdnZiYPJVC03L6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> Lines: 27 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-hFuBTfAZbsTD5fjAG83CsQr7bsxtKbFfYdgzCt+95qcnVao2W6zpxkv0XOYz4W8f3nUS0jitJ/4GFhD!gquAq/4rbQXayuZJtBV9fQvd7yhggo1ik5EO/m1O9jhn5N2UrhL/F9YIwZO0eTlUa87rE3OYR1zb!FATotsknxyuI2A+5ylM49+M0DR0= X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2249 On 04/04/2025 03:29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 02:41:09 +0100, Mike Terry wrote: > >> On 03/04/2025 23:18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> The Cantor diagonal construction is an algorithm for computing an >>> incomputable number. >> >> It is not an algorithm for computing something. Algorithms are >> instructions that operate on finite inputs and must terminate with an >> answer at some point for every input. > > The definition of a �computable number� is that for any integer N, there > is an algorithm that will compute digit N of the number in a finite > sequence of steps. > > Does the Cantor diagonal construction fit this definition? Yes it does. > No it doesn't, because for a computable number the algorithm cannot have an infinite amount of input data. Typically we would have a TM running with a tape containing just the number N finitely encoded somehow and blank elsewhere. The Cantor diagonal construction takes an infinite list as input... Mike.