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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: guns again.
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2024 07:14:34 +0700
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:38:54 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 7/16/2024 8:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 7/16/2024 8:48 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>
>>> Yet more proof that Frankie doesn't know what he is 
>>> talking about. A
>>> shotgun fires a spray of pellets and certainly wouldn't be 
>>> the best
>>> choice in a case where the "Bad Guys" are close to the 
>>> victims as
>>> seems very likely in the above reference.
>> 
>> Argue with Andrew about that. He was the one who originally 
>> posted that a shotgun would be much better for home defense 
>> than an AR.
>> 
>> Beyond that, I disagree with you on the applicability of a 
>> shotgun to these specific cases. But again, I'll let Andrew 
>> explain, if he cares to.
>> 
>
>As with concurrent discussions, 'optimal', 'adequate' and 
>'best' are inherently subjective.
>
>My statement is based on the general consensus among 
>firearms mavens. Typical assessment here:
>
>https://tacticalgear.com/experts/best-guns-for-home-defense
>
>1 through four are 12ga shotguns, then 9mm, .357 and .45ACP 
>pistols.
>
>Eighth is an FN pistol in 5.7 which is a NATO round.
>
>#9 is an .223 AR, #10 an AK in 7.62 (.30cal)
>
>but there are many quite similar conclusions.
>
>I agree that a rifle is less than optimal, but adequate. 
>.223 or .30 cal is up to you.
>
>That article, as most, does not discuss what's behind your 
>target (beyond/through walls, for example) and in many 
>situations that is a severe risk factor for unintended damage.


My point was that from the referenced article the husband and the "bad
guys" were close together - in a fight - and thus a weapon that sprays
many projectiles is probably not the thing to use if one wants to
avoid shooting one's husband.

On the other hand if the use it to prevent an individual or group of
individual from entering the house or are in your house and not in
close proximity to you or others in your family then certainly a
shotgun is a good choice,
-- 
Cheers,

John B.