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Path: ...!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 21:07:37 +0000 From: Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Magnetic force Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 17:07:37 -0400 Message-ID: <gqorej5hn0pi7v2gbqicurp8ubqocl0r3j@4ax.com> References: <vcj76j$voh8$1@dont-email.me> <v29rejpc23rmdqafnoib9lmp0ub8a0r655@4ax.com> <vcki9u$17kss$1@dont-email.me> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 44 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-WWgkk31syy4fq6QdTLjMPyo3MPeob+6OQ9qE9oZO/VSti1fTi+Y/pJJn+9bRggepvqpsh2gy/mGILnP!LWCjTGCqflBBq1hxfcpseXL00aewrB9O/PhF5axyNXKAujEhzlcN89X6DuQwAwWVQKAH5X8= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2687 On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 12:26:44 -0700, Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: >On 9/20/2024 9:38 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 00:11:05 -0700, Don Y >> <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote: >> >>> I have an optically-couple "supervisory port" on my >>> devices. A design requirement is that the outer surfaces >>> of the devices must be "wipe clean" -- no ridges or >>> grooves. >>> >>> I mechanically attach the mating "cable" to the port >>> magnetically (an idea I stole from designing electric >>> power meters -- but, they aren't "wipe clean"!) >>> >>> As I can't rely on any significant mechanical structures >>> to help maintain the attachment's position, that must >>> be guaranteed solely by the strength of the magnetic >>> bond. >> >> This approach will attract and hold magnetic debris, like rust and >> iron filings. Is that a problem, or is wiping enough? If the magnets >> are strong enough, debris removal may be difficult to do in practice. > >Are you expecting the non-magnet surface to assume a >magnetic state, over time? Not if the non-magnet side is soft enough magnetically. >The actual magnet will be on the cable end so the >"wipe clean" surface will not inherently be magnetized. >And, the cable end should be easier to manipulate, "scrub", >etc (even REPLACE) as it is "portable". That'll work so long as the magnet isn't too strong. A good way to clean stuff off a magnet pole is adhesive tape. I'd take a rare earth magnet and roll it around on the floor of the garage, and see what you catch. Joe Gwinn