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From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr>
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Le 05/05/2025 à 11:52, Maciej Woźniak a écrit :
> No, it's not "because Nature works that
> way". It's not that your idiot guru has
> caught God's balls, not at all.
> 
> As the idiot has persuaded you that time
> is dilating - you've created new methods
> of counting it, giving the results as
> he has said.
> 
> A genaral rule of "laws of physics":
> they're not about "how nature works",
> they're about "how your minds work".

The problem with the criticisms and paradoxes of relativistic physics 
stems from the fact that things are very poorly understood and very poorly 
explained.
If we add to that the arrogance of human beings (the physicist is a human 
being) which prevents them from listening to those who present new, much 
more interesting and elegant tables, we're in trouble.
Personally, this has been going on for forty years, and I see that no one 
WANTS to hear how it really works.
It would be good, first of all, to stop using biased terms like "time 
dilation." It's horribly imprecise. We should talk about time elasticity 
(a much more precise term that includes phases of time contraction when 
observers are approaching). On the other hand, it's better to talk about 
internal CHRONOTROPY dilation due to a change of frame of reference; but 
physicists would still need to understand what we're talking about, and 
why I use these terms. For now, their arrogance and stupidity prevent them 
from even discussing it.

R.H.