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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <h-QIa4vokaI12HpxgnrgFM9XOF0@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: [SR] Usefulness of real velocities in accelerated relativistic frames of reference. Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: pTzCGLgXywwV8tHYzuFhY474Kgs JNTP-ThreadID: 1cetg9ltuC_-ANX4baQoDcFLtzU JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=h-QIa4vokaI12HpxgnrgFM9XOF0@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Tue, 12 Mar 24 09:00:29 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/122.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="8e9c64a29b0e5dc904f270dd7ef68fe2b6d8e460"; logging-data="2024-03-12T09:00:29Z/8769622"; posting-account="4@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> Bytes: 1994 Lines: 28 We know that in accelerated frames of reference the average speed is proportional to the instantaneous speed. Let Vrm=(1/2)Vri We are talking about real relativistic speeds (Richard Verret's hobby). But we know that relativistic physicists do not use this notion, and it is important to remind them of the relationship between real speed and observable speed. Vr=Vo/sqrt(1-Vo²/c²) This immediately leads us to Vom/sqrt(1-Vom²/c²)=(1/2)Voi/sqrt(1-Voi²/c²) and therefore to: Vom²(1-Voi²/c²)=(1/4)Voi²(1-Vom²/c²) Let Vom²=(1/4)Voi²+(3/4)Voi².Vom²/c² Hence Vom=(1/2)Voi/sqrt(1-(3/4)Vom²/c²) and, conversely, Voi=2.Vom/sqrt(1+3Vom²/c²) Thank you for your kind attention. R.H.