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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Disc brake maintenance tips Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 13:42:35 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: <h6ri8jl980fkg01h56603l5htkj168k7u2@4ax.com> References: <ss2f8j5j1ir52gjmeqbdvtj9c96r7g5ipv@4ax.com> <7d9f8jhl4vpb0n7p8bodavodbrob28rd8p@4ax.com> <q7mf8jd39j94gkjvpmdg5ubsb5mhph5ric@4ax.com> <0mnf8j1od86gq027k6bbas1ioeam2a6l6b@4ax.com> <v691hf$3aqcm$3@dont-email.me> <c3jg8jh2ilmnt81bbucki78fc44sjiciiq@4ax.com> <uf6h8jp8i6ogq9odo7o52eth5s3m1fe78v@4ax.com> <v6a6tk$3ggeu$6@dont-email.me> <v6a9mp$3l2np$1@dont-email.me> <v6aau3$3l7ug$1@dont-email.me> <v6be64$3qc85$1@dont-email.me> <v6bnfi$3rvtv$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 19:42:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e5ab6e831925986fa2b17c3efbfb66d7"; logging-data="4110485"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19DGkme0P0qFcittf40RphyCYagLRKyh+I=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:JYd9neRUso9MZABymCp7KXunArc= Bytes: 3381 On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:22:24 -0400, Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 7/6/2024 8:43 AM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 7/5/2024 9:42 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> On 7/5/2024 10:21 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>> On 7/5/2024 8:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>> On 7/5/2024 9:23 PM, John B. wrote: >>>>>> I did a study of gun ownership versus >>>>>> gun homicides by states and I found the some states had high gun >>>>>> ownership had low gun homicides so I "dug into it" a bit further and >>>>>> what I found was that: >>>>>> >>>>>> 'IF' there is a gun in the home and 'IF' someone in the home decided >>>>>> to commit suicide or a crime they would likely use the firearm to do >>>>>> so. >>>>> >>>>> That's correct, as far as it goes. The pertinent fact is people with >>>>> guns in their home are much more likely to die or be wounded by >>>>> guns. It's especially true of women whose husbands have guns. >>>>> >>>>> I can give citations yet again, if needed. Not that it would do any >>>>> good, of course. >>>>> >>>> >>>> While we probably agree that suicides of impulse are tragic, I >>>> maintain that most are deliberate and in many instances (I've known >>>> too many) the best result for all concerned. >>>> >>>> I will agree that a lack of weaponry may thwart some impulsive >>>> suicides. That won't stop the deliberate. >>> >>> Nothing is perfect. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. >>> >> >> We've previously discussed the idea of a near-total ban on personal >> firearms with a complex, expensive and restrictive permitting process, >> limited to one per person, single shot rimfire only. >> >> Mexico has exactly that regime in place and has for many long years. >> How's that working out in the real world? > >In the real world of Canada, Britain, Ireland, Germany, Netherlands, >Spain, Australia, New Zealand, etc. etc. policies like that work very >very well. That's only one of the reasons I wouldn't want to live in those places.