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From:  Richard Hachel   <r.hachel@jesauspu.fr>
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Le 08/08/2024 à 20:10, Maciej Wozniak a écrit :
> W dniu 08.08.2024 o 19:16, Paul.B.Andersen pisze:
> 
>> I can understand why you find it very hard to answer
>> questions when they are taken from practical scenarios
>> in the real world
> 
> Your fellow idiot Mikko would tell you, poor halfbrain:
> selling fantasy as reality is wqrong. And it is.

Maciej, you are right, selling fantasy or abstraction for reality is not 
good.
But insulting for free is not good either.
Paul B Andersen is a very good poster, and he has made many web pages 
dealing with relativity. He has made some mistakes, but it is not 
impossible to make him know the real nature of things, and not the many 
mistakes of relativistic physicists dictated by Einstein, Minkowski or 
others.
We should not insult him, but only show him where he makes mistakes, as 
for example when he integrates all the segments of an abstract curve, when 
he calculates the proper times of accelerated objects, and observable 
velocities of these same objects, or when he thinks he can draw a rotating 
relativistic disk on a simple piece of paper without understanding what 
the Lorentz transformations imply (i.e. an associated contraction of the 
radius).
For your part, I invite you to read and understand everything I say about 
RR and why I say it.

R.H.