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Subject: Re: How did Einstein Develop his Field Equations? When: A. He
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On 12/31/2024 12:16 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 15:06:47 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>
>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 11:50:23 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How did Einstein Develop his Field Equations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When:
>>>>>> A. He admitted having little math and no ability in non-Euclidean
>>>>>> geometry.
>>>>>> B. He always relied on someone else to do his math.
>>>>>> C. He denied getting it from Hilbert.
>>>>>> D. He never said who he got it from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Answer:
>>>>>> He stole them from Hilbert.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hilbert disagreed,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan
>>>> Here are two other versions of the quote;
>>>>
>>>> "Every street boy in Gottingen knows as much elliptical geometry as
>>>> Einstein. But the equations are his."
>>>>
>>>>   "Every boy in the streets of Gottingen understands more about
>>>> four-dimensional geometry than Einstein. Yet, in spite of that, Einstein
>>>> did the work and not the mathematicians." — David Hilbert
>>>>
>>>> There is only one way to interpret this. That is Hilbert pointing out
>>>> that obviously Einstein did not invent the field equations because he
>>>> could not.
>>>
>>> That is your way, and it is obviously wrong.
>>> Hilbert chides his fellow mathematicians, and hence himself,
>>> for not having found the correct equation of general relativity,
>>> despite their superior technical skills.
>>> Hilbert goes on to state that:
>>> In spite of that it was Einstein who got there.
>>>
>>> You may guess what Hilbert did next: (see the ref supplied by RH)
>>> ====
>>> On December 4th, Hilbert even nominated Einstein for election as a
>>> corresponding member of the Göttingen Mathematical Society.
>>> (So to his own backyard, where all those superior Gottingen
>>> mathematicians dwelt. It was the highest honour he could bestow
>>> personally)
>>> ====
>>>
>>> Just what you would expect Hilbert to do,
>>> if he considered Einstein an incompetent bungler
>>> who had just stolen his results.
>>>
>>> You had better forget about all this.
>>> You are wrong about it, period.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>
>> Stop talking idiocies,
>
> [snip abuse, and new irrelevancies]
>
> Do you deny that the text I quoted is in the reference you gave?
>
> Jan
>

In Huerter's book "Too Big for a Single Mind"
he says that Hilbert was always saying that
he came up with these before Einstein did.

He relays they were on friendly terms,
after quite a spat, about it.

Yet, at least some sources say Hilbert was first.