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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: I hate my Cox Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 12:43:16 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 99 Message-ID: <hm7s4jtvok2i0eebes7eacci0htadib5tg@4ax.com> References: <v2icbp$kt2v$1@dont-email.me> <v2ifdn$lkmr$1@dont-email.me> <1536759997.738012447.516674.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <v2ja5r$qb6a$3@dont-email.me> <539447110.738028317.906699.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <v2jiqm$rp4d$1@dont-email.me> <770365801.738042880.413119.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <tgtq4j5aormk4nrh56gp4pbm6b9lk12rnf@4ax.com> <23031071.738071376.083628.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 18:43:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="18b9ae12472919f22905cdee40effc31"; logging-data="1343732"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19xPveOMdaufRykYLCtQy164OQ0pObD1MQ=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:NqIGyJ/RMe4i7B2yLvrqyZAJ0sQ= Bytes: 6041 On Wed, 22 May 2024 04:56:02 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote: >shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 21 May 2024 21:04:53 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote: >>>> On 5/21/24 5:08 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> On 5/21/24 12:34 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>>>>>> Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 5/20/2024 10:25 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Ian J. Ball <ijball@mac.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 5/20/24 6:55 PM, anim8rfsk wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I hate my Cox >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Suddenly, after decades of DVR rental, they locked me out until I agree to >>>>>>>>>>>> this: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> By activating, you agree that you want to enable cloud technology to access >>>>>>>>>>>> your Cox Contour TV subscription on additional supported devices like >>>>>>>>>>>> computers and tablets, as well as the TV connected to your set-top DVR via >>>>>>>>>>>> the Cox network. If subscribed to Contour TV DVR with cloud technology, >>>>>>>>>>>> your acceptance also confirms that when you record programs on your set-top >>>>>>>>>>>> DVR you also want to save and store them automatically in the Cox network >>>>>>>>>>>> in several formats to (1) enable you to play them back (and navigate within >>>>>>>>>>>> them) on additional supported devices like computers and tablets, as well >>>>>>>>>>>> as the TV connected to your set-top DVR, and (2) optimize the video and >>>>>>>>>>>> audio quality of your viewing experience during playback. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This development makes sense. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Forcing* subscribers to switch (esp. with no incentive offered) does not. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> They may be planning on charging me for cloud services? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "May"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> $10 surcharge plus X1 box rental >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's Comcastic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I get a monthly fee for rental of the physical DVR unit and another monthly >>>>>>> fee for DVR service (as though you could have one without the other). >>>>>> >>>>>> As do I - I think this is standard for cable TV. >>>>>> >>>>>> What ticks me off is the "broadcast carriage" fee(?) or whatever it's >>>>>> called - that adds about $25 to the cable bill all by itself!! >>>>> >>>>> Do you get a special sports fee for ESPN whether you want it or not? >>>> >>>> That's usually not broken out - everyone with cable has to pay that. >>>> >>> >>> It’s broken out on my Cox. It’s really really annoying. >> >> It was broken out on Comcast and AT&T Uverse. Of course there was no >> way to decline it as those sports bundles were added to every level of >> service. Though it's possible the lowest level now that just includes >> local channels and little else may not have it. >> >> Yep, just checked with Comcast/Xfinity and the most basic TV plan >> (Choice) has 10+ channels for .. strange.. it shows $20/month but in >> the text it says $32/mon with the broadcast fee extra. >> >> Ah, I get it now. Looking at the next level makes it obvious the full >> price is the TV channels + the broadcast so it is $52/month + taxes >> and equipment. >> >> Then there's the next level which is (Popular TV) with 125+ channels >> for $60/month + $32/month broadcast TV fee + $13.50 regional sports >> >> So for Comcast you can avoid the $13.50/month regional sports fee IFF >> you get the most basic plan. Otherwise you are stuck paying for it. >> There is no way to avoid the broadcast fee which makes up a huge >> portion of the cost of the most basic channels. With Choice you are >> basically getting the locals and not much more so you are paying >> $52/month to get the locals. $20/month to Comcast and supposedly >> $32/month to be split among those local stations and $105.50 to add on >> those other channels that they think most people want. >> >> It's clear that it's a rip-off for the limited basic given that the >> majority of the cost goes to the local stations that are already >> getting paid for their advertising. >> > >Cox has recently made all of this information unavailable. You can’t see >any of the plans at all now. It says that you just have to talk to a >salesman. Hmm, I'm not a Cox customer and was able to see all of the plans and their costs. Contour TV Starter shows up as $61/month. Though my guess is that doesn't include the broadcast and regional sports fees. https://www.cox.com/residential/tv.html