Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 21:10:29 +0000
From: John Larkin <jjSNIPlarkin@highNONOlandtechnology.com>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: smart people doing stupid things
Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 14:08:34 -0700
Organization: Highland Tech
Reply-To: xx@yy.com
Message-ID: <hnhf4jt6uftg2467rf89berii4pb3ek25q@4ax.com>
References: <bk9f4j5689jbmg8af3ha53t3kcgiq0vbut@4ax.com> <v28bkr$2besd$1@dont-email.me> <kjef4jtnmq1p0tqs5kuodnn1gd47lu257c@4ax.com> <ecgf4j12bsu4narn36efqeooj3uvsbugl8@4ax.com>
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.1/32.783
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 44
X-Trace: sv3-uqzERSn2oq0RQ+6MkCTbm3BhNVfxbbA7olx3TuuBLXrUwdwcnqCS4z9idWVmWWBMY//ZYwO/s1QYakR!vjypPz1gaV42cSsyDpglFtqfYnyj2Viw7YDch3lCGExBHYAipxZYXxfuyWtT0y6KlLMiWleHXqy+!l6YByQ==
X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html
X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
Bytes: 2965

On Fri, 17 May 2024 16:55:57 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 17 May 2024 13:14:30 -0700, John Larkin
><jjSNIPlarkin@highNONOlandtechnology.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 May 2024 15:36:55 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid
>><martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:
>>
>>>John Larkin <jjSNIPlarkin@highNONOlandtechnology.com> Wrote in
>>> message:r
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Peima-Uw7wSee graph at 9:50 in.I see this a lot, engineers wanting to do complex stuff because it'samusing to them, when simple common-sense things would work and bedone.
>>>
>>>My current project requires iec62304  and it is amusing .
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>
>>Yikes. What does it cost to buy the standard? Does it reference other
>>standards?
>
>It's 345 Swiss franks (USD 380).  Probably cites many things, so you
>may need a bunch of these expensive standards.  
>
>It documents the now obsolete waterfall model of software development,
>at great length, for medical devices.
>
>.<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_62304>
>
>I've had to follow this approach (but not this standard), and it
>didn't go well, because it didn't deal with practical constraints at
>all.  The electronic-design parallel would be a process that requires
>that a transistor with very specific properties exist and be
>available.  But in the real world, we have to use the transistors that
>are available, even if they are not perfect - make what you want from
>what you can get.
>
>The solution was to design from the middle out, and when it all
>settled down, document as if it were developed from the top down.
>
>Joe Gwinn

That's the Microsoft Project Effect: the more tasks you define in a
project, the longer it takes.