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From: Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
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Subject: Re: Remnant of the future
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2024 07:23:07 +0200
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Sun, 7 Apr 2024 18:57:54 -0000 (UTC): Christian Weisgerber
<naddy@mips.inka.de> scribeva:

>On 2024-04-07, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> wrote:
>
>[Portuguese "és"]
>>>I find it complicated that it would be anything other than the normal
>>>evolution of latin 'es', but I haven't read on the subject.
>>
>> How would ‘es’ keep its s,
>
>The same way other second person forms keep their -s:
>Final -s is conserved from Latin to Portuguese.
>
>> when ‘est’ lost the t AND the s?
>
>Not a regular sound change.  Given it's extremely high frequency,
>an irregular reduction isn't that surprising.  And again, the 2./3.
>person clash after regular loss of -t had to be resolved in some
>way.

Makes sense.