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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Let's hide the bicyclists behind parked cars. What could go wrong?
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2025 18:58:16 +0700
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2025 05:43:56 -0500, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/15/2025 1:34 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 1/15/2025 12:26 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>> On Thu Jan 9 19:17:51 2025 Roger Merriman  wrote:
>>>> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> "Protected" bike lane hazard lawsuit:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://komonews.com/news/local/cyclist-green-lake-neighborhood- 
>>>>> king-county-superior-court-aviv-litov-26-years-old-bike-lanes-life- 
>>>>> altering-injuries-strittmatter-firm-configuration-tesla
>>>>>
>>>> I?m unconvinced by such designs seems asking for trouble and and 
>>>> attempting
>>>> to please everyone ie compromise the cycleway for car parking, I?m 
>>>> guessing
>>>> nice wide junction with no attempt to slow cars down let alone 
>>>> control it?
>>>>
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>
>>> As a cyclist you don't have automatic right-of-way and are responsible 
>>> to watch for idiots.
>> 
>> ? I don't know what you mean by "_automatic_ right of way" but according 
>> to typical state laws, cyclists do have a right to use the road, and 
>> other road users must respect that.
>> 
>> The phrase "right of way" does not necessarily occur in state laws. It's 
>> not present in Ohio laws, AFAIK. But detail text of laws makes it clear 
>> that in many instances - at stop signs, before pulling out of a 
>> driveway, etc. - vehicle operators must yield to other vehicles or other 
>> traffic. That includes bicycles; therefore, bicyclists do have what's 
>> colloquially called "right of way."
>> 
>> Pulling out directly in front of a moving bicyclists and causing him to 
>> crash will (or should) get you a ticket.
>> 
>
>I think in New Hampsire cyclists are regarded as pedestrians such that 
>they are granted the right of way, but at least in Massachusetts:

https://www.dot.nh.gov/projects-plans-and-programs/programs/bikes-and-pedestrians/rules-traffic-safety
Bicyclists have the same rights and responsibilities as motorists.
Bicycles are vehicles (RSA 265:143).


>
> From https://www.mass.gov/doc/english-drivers-manual/download
>
>at a green light: A steady green circle means “go.” But first, you must 
>yield to other vehicles, bicycles, or pedestrians in the road.
>
>As a motorist in the presence of bicycles:
>• Do Not Cut-Off After Passing: When passing a bicycle traveling in the 
>same direction that is on your right, you must not return to the right 
>until you have safely passed the overtaken bicycle. (Chap. 89, Sec. 2)
>• Do Not Make an Abrupt Turn After Passing: When passing a bicycle near 
>an intersection or driveway where you want to turn right, you cannot 
>turn unless you are at a safe distance from the bicyclist and you can 
>make the turn at a reasonable and proper speed. (Chap. 90, Sec 14)
>• Do Not Squeeze Bicycles in a Narrow Lane: If a lane is too narrow to 
>pass a bicycle at a safe distance, be PATIENT until you can safely use 
>an adjacent lane or WAIT until it is safe to pass in the lane you share. 
>(Chap. 89, Sec. 2) You must stay at least four feet away when passing.
>• Do Not Fail to Yield When Turning Left: When turning left at an 
>intersection or into an alley, private road, or driveway, you must yield 
>the right of way to a vehicle approaching from the opposite direction, 
>including a bicycle, if it is in the intersection or close enough to be 
>an immediate hazard. (Chap. 90, Sec 14)
>• Watch for Bicycles on Your Right: Bicycles can legally ride to the 
>right of motor vehicle traffic. The law says it is not a defense for a 
>motorist causing a crash with a bicycle that the bicycle was to the 
>right of other traffic. (Chap. 85, Sec 11B)
>• Do Not Open a Door Without First Looking: Drivers and passengers can 
>be fined up to $100 for opening a vehicle door into an oncoming bicycle. 
>(Chap. 90, Sec 14) Before opening your door, you should always check 
>behind you to make sure that no bicyclists are approaching.
>• Be aware that bicyclists can ride two bicycles side-by-side. However, 
>on a road with more than one lane in the direction of travel, they must 
>stay in one lane. (Chap. 85, Sec. 11B)
>• Be aware that bicyclists Do Not Always Have to Signal Turns! 
>Bicyclists must signal their intent by either hand to stop or turn. 
>However, the signal does not have to be continuous or be made at all if 
>both hands are needed for the bicycle’s safe operation. (Chap. 85, Sec. 11B)
>
>It then goes to explain yielding to cyclists in bike lanes, bike boxes, 
>and how not to 'door' a cyclist.
-- 
Cheers,

John B.