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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Subject: Re: Dead Vermont cyclist
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 06:22:15 -0400
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On 15 Mar 2025 10:03:53 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

>Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:47:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3/14/2025 4:37 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:10:40 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/14/2025 1:25 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:44:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nope, I'm not sympathetic. What rule could be more fundamental than
>>>>>>> "Don't hit someone walking (or bicycling) with your car"?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And if killing someone with your car isn't sufficient for forbidding
>>>>>>> future driving, what would be?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is the permission to drive really more important than a person's life?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Isn't there a law against riding your bicycle in the path of a moving
>>>>>> car?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What nonsense!
>>>> 
>>>> Oh well, go ahead and do it....
>>> 
>>> I do it all the time. I did it many times on today's ride, as usual. I'm 
>>> not nearly as fearful or as ignorant of the law as you are.
>>> 
>>> Man up, if you can.
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure that if I ride into the path of fast moving vehicles
>> and get hit, it'd be my own fault. 
>> 
>> --
>> C'est bon
>> Soloman
>> 
>
>There is world of difference between riding on a road, as one should be
>able to so, and other users of the road as every have to adjust to others
>using the road, back in wales I can encounter all manner of vehicles and
>animals!
>
>Even in london and areas around get
>pedestrians/scooters/bikes/horses/motorbikes/milk
>floats/vans/buses/lorries.
>
>All of which will use the roads in different ways, unless it’s a motorway
>where all traffic is broadly traveling same speeds.
>
>Roger Merriman

Of course I'm not arguing against riding on streets and roads. I do it
regularly. Buit just like in a vehicle, moving into the path of a
faster moving vehicle might not be a good idea. 

 
At 30 mph you need roughly 120 feet to come to a complete stop (65
feet to react and 55 feet to brake) in good conditions.
 
At 60 mph you need roughly 360 feet to come to a complete stop (130
feet to react and 190 feet to brake) in good conditions.

https://zutobi.com/us/driver-guides/reaction-braking-stopping-distance

--
C'est bon
Soloman