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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Grand Apagon - Electricity (not) in Spain Date: Sun, 4 May 2025 14:41:53 +0200 Lines: 40 Message-ID: <ht3kelxmm6.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <vuqgef$1of93$1@dont-email.me> <vuqogf$1vlqj$1@dont-email.me> <vuqsdb$2497h$1@dont-email.me> <vusgmj$3lvur$2@dont-email.me> <1rbln2a.1frrgzg19gl8fgN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vuvter$2p1lu$1@dont-email.me> <5tvcelxu6g.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv2641$r3ti$2@dont-email.me> <aqpfelxr9m.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv3jdv$23k6v$2@dont-email.me> <o8fhelxmth.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv5kqu$1a2p$1@dont-email.me> <v7gielxndi.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv64hv$gau7$1@dont-email.me> <q0pielxgld.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vv6rl8$181t3$2@dont-email.me> <vv70lh$19ddn$4@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net kM9IQ2sbCn0XMcDIWnPbMQn0GESlSYk1q7Pqk0oTeN/sQ9svan X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:9xd4JFQFq9ioDkUnKPlwSNXs2+Q= sha256:+0d13o3ay9jRXrzO9xhe5E8GTnlb8g/KQuBAbac7d9Q= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <vv70lh$19ddn$4@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3226 On 2025-05-04 08:15, Bill Sloman wrote: > On 4/05/2025 2:49 pm, Don Y wrote: >>>> Their "poor planning/engineering" hasn't COST them sufficiently for >>>> them >>>> to actually DO something about the problem! Perhaps now, with an >>>> entire >>>> nation *pissed*, they will decide they can't just wave their hands >>>> at the problem... >>> >>> Too early. It will be months before we know what actually happened, >>> and this before anybody can think what can be done about it. >> >> But, they will now not be able to hand-wave the issue aside. >> People will be EXPECTING "something" to be done with the >> CLAIMED point of being a "solution". Even if it proves not to be! > > Donald Trump has a lot of "solutions" to the "problems" he claims > American is facing. Hitler's solutions to similar "problems" was to > invade Russia. Trump's trade war with China is even more foolish. > > Encouraging politicians to "act" often has them picking "solutions" that > look dramatic but don't actually work. > > Buying lots of grid scale batteries probably would solve the problem, > but might not provide enough photo-opportunities to be an attractive > solution. Pumped hydroelectric storage takes a lot longer to install but > it does offer more dramatic images. > Indeed. The Right Wing here is demanding action and blaming the government for either cover up or negligence, which is ridiculous (being polite). The government can not throw a press conference (or parliament investigation) and say "the cause of the Gran Apagón was this and that, and we will do this and that", till the engineers say so. The engineers say it will take months to analyze all the data of those 5 seconds, or more, and speak. -- Cheers, Carlos.