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Path: ...!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 06:35:19 +0000 Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy References: <vkjmdg$30kff$1@dont-email.me> <1814c96a2531ed89$71164$2566989$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <441smjp44l5o2ja4c1vlsv32oh2j6m9n4j@4ax.com> <CoubP.49797$DPl.41452@fx13.iad> <pan$4da7a$f7b58970$926e1064$15cef996@linux.rocks> <4f7tmjplbte7cnuh2pqrh1fufs4iatv3fd@4ax.com> <f6GcnYUuyu7qFfL6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com> <ubb0nj5ioc4r3gbqhmmiprdejtefj1j6mm@4ax.com> <67707879@news.ausics.net> <edc3cd22-5cbb-bb81-70e4-321c53d62162@example.net> <VibcP.22228$VnJ1.12797@fx44.iad> <a092fd3e-df3f-6c16-fc67-50321ba67dd1@example.net> <YNycP.37866$vfee.30336@fx45.iad> <366b4ad1-4849-d7a9-cade-67d1eba035c3@example.net> <gJScP.13176$XfF8.10959@fx04.iad> <FEYcP.131275$aTp4.70494@fx09.iad> <35a09fa5-08b1-8121-51c7-28d3aac1cd0f@example.net> <ltlqktFgobaU2@mid.individual.net> <vl5p5a$39pj4$2@dont-email.me> <2797de8b-90fd-0aee-aeb8-f4233722fad7@example.net> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 01:35:21 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2797de8b-90fd-0aee-aeb8-f4233722fad7@example.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <htSdnY3x04W6GOr6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 52 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-m3tcFTMnuhrb6AGXWsnWIdiawHP/QzXfAHmvnvXEPXJtTAhOeGeNcSsXlBVdIeOtJ3Ut0BbUvf8nHwf!CVF94xoMtlqCICaIebCJpNQlmG3GC0iWhl1wE81njrzSu17JbLjxRNk/X5jEifZQegzGTD9Vp8Ip!HqumWEGKyTYNMM2wglDp X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3921 On 1/2/25 6:33 AM, D wrote: > > > On Thu, 2 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 01/01/2025 21:33, rbowman wrote: >>> wiw, the company I worked for at the times didn't find excellence either >>> and is gone. Come to think of it every company I ever worked for >>> directly >>> or on contract is gone. Maybe I'm the kiss of death? >> >> Companies exist in a phase of 'rising star' 'mature' 'cash cow' and >> 'death spiral' >> >> IBM for example died years ago - the company today is just the old >> business services division. >> >> No company I ever worked for is extant today in anything like its >> original form. > > I wonder if a new owner would be able to shake some life into z and p? > As it is, IBM seems to be trying to kill those lines hard with high prices. I've got a fair bit of IBM stock ... it's NOT "dead", indeed pays pretty good interest. The corp just found other ways to make a buck and is large enough to make it work. But its core biz is NOT exactly what it was in the 80s and previous. You still CAN buy an IBM mainframe - up to four linked Big Black Z Boxes with impressive specs. Even runs the IBM-branded RedHat if you want (many do). If you've got a busy global biz, a good way to go. https://www.ibm.com/z Hmmm ... saw something about Plan-9 being ported to the Z-Boxes ... they were very proud. I think IBM still has a future, just not making PCs and typewriters. STILL doing good chip work however ... but mostly for internal consumption. On the neg ... IBMs 'AI', "Watson", was originally a triumph but seems to have fallen a bit behind the proverbial curve of late. It's still very 'biz oriented' and has a medical diagnostics branch that's quite good, but it's not as 'general' as Chat or OpenAI.