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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.xs3.de!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Casanova <nospam@buzz.off> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Molecular Dating: The turd that won't go away Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:02:14 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <i3t18jd12ignrsn7q0tk0l7v3g9botkrc1@4ax.com> References: <b8GdnSut7s8w3-P7nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <tmidnYu6jZOe2uL7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <OuqdnUawf_-04-L7nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <14186b44-84ba-4568-bed5-42fd6a827306@gmail.com> <le9t2oFft45U1@mid.individual.net> <zvidncHzH5okgx37nZ2dnZfqlJydnZ2d@giganews.com> <v5pjgu$1lpg$1@dont-email.me> <HoKcnThf5_0mER37nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="43435"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.20.32.1218 To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:v7/6T642989u5UuI2R2VlihPxMY= Return-Path: <news@eternal-september.org> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 3F64D229870; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 02:01:49 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BBE822986E for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 02:01:47 -0400 (EDT) id 8CDCF5DC6C; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 06:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org by mod-relay-1.kamens.us (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C6CE5DC4B for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 06:02:18 +0000 (UTC) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CCE05F81D for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 06:02:16 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/6CCE05F81D; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=buzz.off id 39A2FDC01A9; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 08:02:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 08:02:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18ubVvVl1C7uhnOISkO/1UxNb9k/UiX+8VOx19IFmfdZuhRJGeTvDdS HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org Bytes: 3796 On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 15:37:47 -0700, the following appeared in talk.origins, posted by John Harshman <john.harshman@gmail.com>: >On 6/29/24 11:24 AM, Ernest Major wrote: >> On 29/06/2024 15:48, John Harshman wrote: >>> Google gives me nothing in a search for "isolation is the engine of >>> evolution", unfortunately. You have to wonder why he posts if he's >>> that uninterested in being understood. >> >> Apart from JTEM Google gives me a quotation from an ecotourism guide in >> Costa Rica. I don't find it a particularly opaque phrase. If one was to >> be more precise one might substitute diversity or cladogenesis for >> evolution. In the light of recent mentions of the founder effect in >> quoted posts JTEM might be referring to evolutionary innovation, which >> is a somewhat more controversial claim. >> >The question is not what that sentence means but who is supposed to have >said it, i.e. the "good doctor". > Mengele? Moreau? Kevorkian? So many possibilities... > -- Bob C. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov