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Subject: Re: What composes the mass of an electron?
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On 11/03/2024 11:30 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
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>> On 03-Nov-24 3:05 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 02-Nov-24 2:13 am, rhertz wrote:
>>>>> A definition of mass, as found in Google:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mass is a measurement of the amount of matter or substance in an
>>>>> object.
>>>>> It's the total amount of protons, neutrons, and electrons in an object."
>>>>>
>>>>> It's "accepted" since the 60s that protons and neutrons are not
>>>>> elementary particles anymore. As stated in the Standard Model of
>>>>> Elementary Particles, protons and neutrons are composed of quarks, with
>>>>> different flavors.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.quantumdiaries.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2000px-Standard_Model_of_Elementary_Particles.svg_.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> But electrons are thought as elementary particles, so they can't be
>>>>> formed by a collection of other elementary particles. Even quarks are
>>>>> currently thought as working together with elementary gluons (QCD, Gauge
>>>>> Bossons).
>>>>>
>>>>> So, what is THE MATTER that electrons contain?
>>>>>
>>>>> This is one of many FAILS of the current SMEP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that the electron's mass is composed of unknown matter? Maybe of
>>>>> electromagnetic nature?
>>>>>
>>>>> After all, modern civilization is based on what electrons can do, isn't
>>>>> it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> THEY KNOW NOTHING, AS IN RELATIVISM!.
>>>>
>>>> An expectation that everything can be explained in terms of other
>>>> smaller things results in an infinite regression. It's not a rabbit hole
>>>> one wants to descend into.
>>>>
>>>> While one can hypothesise that the electron is not elementary, so far
>>>> there is nothing to suggest that it has an internal structure. Until and
>>>> unless something comes along to indicate that it is not elementary, you
>>>> have nothing more than empty speculation.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sylvia belongs to the lemmings generation. If 'somebody nameless' says the electron does not have mass...
>>> then Sylvia THINKS the electron has no mass.
>>
>> Where did I so much as suggest that the electron has no mass?
>>
>> Sylvia.
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> By your own words.
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> You wrote: "...so far
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>   "...there is nothing to suggest that it has an internal structure."
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> "...nothing to suggest that it has an internal structure."
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> nothing
> empty
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> Slyvia, you should have wrote: :  "...there is nothing to suggest that it has NO internal structure."
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> But instead you said: '...there is nothing to suggest that it posses an internal structure.'
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> You are SUGGESTING the electron has NO mass.
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It's kind of like a little lever in the electromagnetic, ....

According to Ohm and Maxwell it's electro-motive, ....

"The potential"