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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 06:01:15 +0000 Subject: Re: Another new PC for me! Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc References: <9fusrj5r2ns0g1j5n54bsnaoqqk1pv9iv5@4ax.com> <MPG.422841f4e63026b7989e96@usnews.blocknews.net> From: c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 01:01:12 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <MPG.422841f4e63026b7989e96@usnews.blocknews.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <iL-cnZ9JYtG2MyP6nZ2dnZfqn_YAAAAA@giganews.com> Lines: 67 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-uSEoPOCiXsXXKpxPErSbZjpeDDkdCHzqoAivOLsg2v6HAaBTkmF54vK5zi1/ZDNToiMSbLPpXO9f4dT!AuP7iCPaNJUuEN7xxSTWoT/QB6aV6nHHaAVX99mRegDrQhUFi5TJ3JbjR0nMFSEvL1kp2WwY5pA0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 On 2/26/25 12:09 AM, Butch Maddow wrote: > Once upon a time, on or about Tue, 25 Feb 2025 20:32:30 -0600, chrisv > allegedly stated the following, and is solely responsible for its > content: > > > MAGA! > MAGA!Some of you may recall that I built a new Alder Lake machine in the > MAGA!Summer of 2023, to replace my Ivy Bridge (Intel 3rd gen) quad-core i5. > MAGA!I've now replaced my other PC, a Skylake (Intel 6th gen) quad-core > MAGA!Xeon. Below I compare the new components to the 2023 build, and the > MAGA!reasons for my choices. > MAGA! > MAGA!CPU: Intel Raptor Lake i5-14600k (Alder Lake i5-12400) In 2023 a > MAGA!Raptor Lake i5 was a $300 chip, which I felt was too much for my > MAGA!needs. Now it's a $200 chip, so I decided to step up, even though I > MAGA!remain skeptical of the need for so many (6P + 8E) CPU cores. The > MAGA!larger L2 cache of Raptor Lake, combined with higher clock speeds, > MAGA!gives the 14600k around 25% better performance than the 12400, and > MAGA!that's in benchmarks that do _not_ benefit from having a zillion > MAGA!cores. It costs twice as much the 12400, but increases the total > MAGA!system cost by only 10%. And, who knows, maybe some day I will do > MAGA!something that will utilize all the cores. > MAGA! > MAGA!Motherboard: Asus TUF Gaming B760M-Plus WiFi II (MSI B760M Mag Mortar > MAGA!WiFi) Both are good-quality B760-based microATX boards. The MSI > MAGA!board has been working fine, but I thought I'd the Asus a try. I > MAGA!perceive it as being a bit of an upgrade over the MSI. I have no need > MAGA!for the extras that a Z790 board offers. > MAGA! > MAGA!RAM: G Skill 48GB DDR5-6400 (G Skill 32GB DDR5-5600) I think that 32G > MAGA!is way plenty, and will be for a long time. But in the spirit of this > MAGA!PC being a performance upgrade and more future-proof, I decided to > MAGA!endow it with more RAM. I thought about 64G, but that just seemed > MAGA!ridiculous, for what I do. The 48G compromise seemed kind of fun and > MAGA!different. The speed boost to 6400 MHz was done in the same spirit of > MAGA!custom-built fun, and because Raptor Lake does officially support > MAGA!faster RAM. > MAGA! > MAGA!SSD: Kingston KC3000 2TB PCIe 4 M.2 (same) Plenty good. I see no > MAGA!need for PCIe 5, here. > MAGA! > MAGA!PSU: Seasonic Vertex 750W 80+ gold (Seasonic Focus 650W 80+ Gold) > MAGA!Small steps up in quality and performance, for the new PC. > MAGA! > MAGA!CPU cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO (Deepcool AK620) > MAGA!Both are large dual-tower, dual fan coolers. I might have bought the > MAGA!Deepcool again, but they got into some kind of legal trouble and are > MAGA!no longer available. The reviews that I read of the Thermalright said > MAGA!that it was one of the best air coolers available, and it's reasonably > MAGA!priced > MAGA! > MAGA!Case: Asus Prime AP201 microATX mini-tower (same) Has the jacks that > MAGA!I want, where I want them, and no silly glass panel. > MAGA! > MAGA!GPU: Nvidia GTX 1080Ti (GTX 1070) Both are far from state of the > MAGA!art, but suffice for the occasional screwing-around with older games, > MAGA!that I do. > > What's the lift and duration on your cams? I assume you're using > roller rockers... Ok ... that was just weird ......... And why was there a 'guns' group in the headers ? Planning an armed take-over of something ?