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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Disc brake maintenance tips Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 11:32:04 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 83 Message-ID: <iidg7j9outkul3bnlr7n48qhsuu78iua55@4ax.com> References: <v4vm4i$26cnd$1@dont-email.me> <jop67jlu8s63qql60qtp40jlolatseh5bj@4ax.com> <g0v67jdkdq5ctvtdtqqdan0ca7hi1c5k3m@4ax.com> <kem77jtptap3pb34062aj7v685m2gqas2n@4ax.com> <pdmc7j9j6v3ph3hga0nu8krjuhp8gruqvb@4ax.com> <v5702k$3rglh$2@dont-email.me> <ea2e7jdm5ttol2ekfakg8lq1cvobkaa52q@4ax.com> <v573rl$3rt4r$3@dont-email.me> <276e7jhug22rd9mn8pn3no2l6rqfm7rt38@4ax.com> <v57r3j$hc6$1@dont-email.me> <4dlf7jpr04ludth2uvc7v4nbdc4f7aguki@4ax.com> <v59bqc$cir2$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 17:32:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="57902b4836eb821bf4e3e46dfe1eeb19"; logging-data="436773"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19zjR7IRUZUj8GM73rblMj1yKhJN1PjW9k=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:TBcpzBfkYTlS3gD6Lar2BsFN4rU= Bytes: 4630 On Sun, 23 Jun 2024 09:34:50 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >On 6/23/2024 3:15 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >> On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 20:43:31 -0400, Frank Krygowski >> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> On 6/22/2024 3:01 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>> On Sat, 22 Jun 2024 14:06:44 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6/22/2024 1:45 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> A quick look at Amazon's sample of Forester's book provides an idea of >>>>>> what the pompous jackass had to say. He says some people just don't >>>>>> know how to enjoy bicycling, but he's ready to help you with that. >>>>>> They actually want $29 for that ridiculous book. >>>>>> >>>>>> I say "Pfffft!" >>>> >>>> I should perhaps add that it's very clear what Forester's big message >>>> was. He, like you, insists that true bicycling enjoyment can only be >>>> had by riding among vehicular traffic on streets and roads in the >>>> course of one's usual transits. >>> >>> Obviously, you haven't read the book. You're blathering out of ignorance. >> >> Of course I haven't read that book. Why would I? I have, however, >> read about Forester. >> >> https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2020/04/23/death-of-a-dinosaur-anti-cycleway-campaigner-john-forester-dies-aged-90/ >> >>>>> :-) How's your self-publishing effort working out? >>>> >>>> I am reviewing a proof copy, and deciding what size the paperback >>>> version should be. I'm not in a hurry to publish it. I do have other >>>> interests. >>> >>> Oh please! You bragged.. >> >> <LOL> I simply showed you what you asked for. Perhaps you should >> consider not asking to see things you don't want to see. >> >>> by showing a link to several books you claim to >>> have written and "self published" - books that sold too little to stay >>> on the market. >> >> <EYEROLL> Books aren't taken off the market simply because they sold >> too little, Dumbass. There are books available on Amazon that haven't >> sold a copy for years and years. >> >> ...but like I said, unlike you, I documented what I said I did. >> >>> Plenty have paid attention to Forester and his ideas. >> >> ...and? >> >>> His most famous >>> book went through seven editions, most of them published by MIT Press. >>> He was very influential, even though the dimmer idealists disagreed with >>> him. >> >> ...and yet I see the bike trails and bike lanes that he argued against >> all over the USA and other countries. >> >> >> I think people saw John Forester as the oddity that he was. Don >> Quixote on skinny wheels. >> >>> Nobody has paid attention to you. >> >> Yes. Unlike you, I don't seek attention. > >While I agree that Mr Forester's work has little to no >application or import for you, I think he has much valuable >to offer for me, especially in 45 years of daily commuting >in traffic. I understand you share his disdain for riding in bicycle specific infrastructure, but it seems to me that such infrastructure has been instrunmental in increasing the numbers of bicyclists. For what it's worth, I've done my share of riding on streets and roads, and did just fine without his advice on how to do it.