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On 2/12/25 1:28 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 22:50:21 -0500, WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> 
> 
>>     I too lament a relative lack of 68K boxes. It was a fine chip. It is
>>     said IBM considered it, but the prices - purchase + design - were
>>     more than it wanted for a product they didn't know would be
>>     successful. Not sure Motorola could have produced enough of them at
>>     the time either.
> 
> They had used the 8085 in the System/23 so it was somewhat familiar
> territory. iirc the 68008 wasn't quite ready for prime time either and all
> those dirt cheap 8bit peripherals were so enticing.

   I think the 86 series had 'more future possibilities'
   than the 8085. There were too many 8-bit systems out
   there already, so bumping up to 16 bit was smart for
   sales. Why make/compete-with "just another TRS-80" ?

   As for the cheap accessories, very true.

   Few boxes are made up in the ivory tower with unlimited
   funds to be had. Tech and marketing have to come to
   certain compromises.

>>     Always wanted a PET ... but didn't have the $$$ back when they were
>>     popular. The C64 was "better" in a number of ways, but it didn't come
>>     in the stylish all-in-one case
> 
> I saw one of the 4000 series sitting on a trash can a few years ago but
> sometimes I have brief flashes of sanity. The PET was way behind the
> TRS-80 in sales but the C64 was a real winner. Commodore is another one of
> the sad stories of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

   Not entirely sure why CBM crashed and burned. The IBM
   box changed public perceptions a bit - and all those
   nice plug-in slots on the board were better than the
   usual CBM approach of cartridges and serial peripherials.
   The home game market switched towards dedicated devices
   as well. Guess CBM management bought a faulty crystal ball.