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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: BOLO pervert cyclist Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:08:38 +0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 87 Message-ID: <j09vdjtr712dhu6o2keog4vjli5ps53hl6@4ax.com> References: <vbga1p$10phu$6@dont-email.me> <3d4odj5e1mecoos0bs9h9uslqcpaa2ojtu@4ax.com> <vbhq5n$1dkbr$2@dont-email.me> <jlsodj1m76ftt2sjj8c1puv1eje5ajbgbe@4ax.com> <vbk5ej$1t9n4$4@dont-email.me> <2n9rdj9lb9mc2qlir5e658h1972nf7bmo4@4ax.com> <vbla24$23i7l$2@dont-email.me> <1vesdjh23eqk9cml7f0nd8lsi4s2v06lht@4ax.com> <vblj1a$24hqc$5@dont-email.me> <d2vsdjpl7ftt50t5appdnao3ervfnpp6ob@4ax.com> <vbmvcf$2e5f6$5@dont-email.me> <vbn9br$2fu5n$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 04:08:42 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e2c79ea3c2873929b9c9728d4a158b34"; logging-data="2889227"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/6OrlTaSF2avh/9Ov42wSuKDKubsIEAfs=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.10.32.1212 Cancel-Lock: sha1:fsRqzA87ArtIiyb6UabL4P2bsIM= Bytes: 4410 On Mon, 9 Sep 2024 11:56:27 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >On 9/9/2024 9:06 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 9/9/2024 1:38 AM, John B. wrote: >>> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 21:29:14 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/8/2024 8:16 PM, John B. wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 8 Sep 2024 18:56:02 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/8/2024 9:37 AM, John B. wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You rant about the AR's but not a peep about the drunks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Part of the difference is that we don't have posters >>>>>> here regularly >>>>>> praising drunk driving. We do have about three posters >>>>>> regularly >>>>>> praising the public use of ARs, and the great value of >>>>>> owning one. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even though two of those posters don't themselves own one! >>>>> >>>>> More lies. >>>>> >>>>> I believe that myself and Andrew are the two main people >>>>> that talk >>>>> about the dreaded AR's but I don't remember any one >>>>> "praise" them... >>>> >>>> Oh. I thought you were in favor of them. That would seem >>>> to imply you >>>> think they have good qualities. >>> >>> I don't believe I ever implied that I was in favor of AR >>> types, but I >>> would add that neither do I oppose them. Nor ever voiced >>> such a >>> belief, or (again from memory) do I remember Andrew doing >>> so although >>> I do remember his showing a picture of his wife/ >>> girlfriend's AR. >>> >>> But I must admit that your stated belief that it is >>> perfectly normal, >>> and you apparently condone, drunk drivers and other law >>> breakers >>> killing kill kids with automobiles while killing a far >>> smaller number >>> with an AR is terrible, terrible. >>> >>> It seems, at best irrational, to say the least. >> >> Nope, you're losing track of the logic again. >> >> Many years ago, we had one poster here who bragged about his >> chaotic bicycling behavior, including riding while very >> drunk. He's long gone. But even he did not post in favor of >> drunk driving. If someone did, I'd argue against them. >> >> We do have people posting in favor of essentially >> unrestricted public possession of rifles capable of rapidly >> killing dozens of people. I argue against them, because I >> see the societal disadvantages greatly exceeding the >> (nonexistent!) societal advantages. >> > >Nice summary of your oft-expressed views. >Others do not see the issues similarly. The frustrating thing is that I've told him and you've told him that many, many firearms are capable, or capable with an easily purchased part, of doing everything that an AR can do. I'm guessing but I suspect that the use of the AR for school shooting may be due to them being so cheap to buy and school kids don't have much money. I see AR's for about $400 and in comparison a REMINGTON 7600 CARBINE 30-06 19 INCH " BARRELis is over $1,000. -- Cheers, John B.