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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Circuit Symbol Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 11:25:27 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 47 Message-ID: <j686mjlf98ba5l2tstkb5u25l2mnvkk1gm@4ax.com> References: <4v46mjpnmfi29eka4juuklv2fcd7nv6etd@4ax.com> <bk66mjh5qsred5rc8nce9hnbpr14i3a9t2@4ax.com> <nm66mjtuj8rs2ae4f4703d8q3lf0vl70ek@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:22:17 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e835540a7b0c9bda043e21c7c929f48a"; logging-data="2561830"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+zJcEAqfameTrAa+ifOQJV" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Nh/olVP76ATjizX8FAW2+uxTJf0= Bytes: 2888 On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 19:00:01 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:57:10 -0800, john larkin <jl@glen--canyon.com> >wrote: > >>On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 18:38:55 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> >>wrote: >> >>>Gentlemen, >>> >>>A chum of mine who's into classic cars has asked me to take a look at >>>the radio out of his 1938 Bentley which has never worked in all the >>>years he's had it in his ownership. Obviously, given the year, this is >>>an all-valve job (if you're in the US, I'm referring to what YOU call >>>"tubes"). There isn't a single semiconductor in this thing cos they >>>weren't invented until much later. The valves require an anode >>>("plate" if you're in the US) voltage of 235V so there's a DC to DC >>>up-converter to generate that from the 12V battery. Rather interesting >>>approach they've used and one can see an embryonic SMPS in there! >>>Anyway, there's a schematic symbol I can't identify for sure. Could be >>>a fuse, could be a link or jumper, could be a current test point, I've >>>no idea. So can some kind, intelligent soul enlighten me? They're >>>labeled V1 through V8. Here's a pic: >>> >>>https://disk.yandex.com/i/mIv_txLia6Xx4Q >>> >>>TIA, >>>CD >> >>Probably the tube filaments. >> >>Incidentally, I have seen people selling solid-state plugin >>replacements for vibrators. > >Splendid suggestion, John. I must admit that never occurred to me. >I'm afraid this chap is a stickler for originality and wants >everything done with old parts. I did venture to suggest a modern, >monolithic converter but that was rebuffed most vociferously. Sigh... I'd stick a transistor radio behind the old knobs. It may have a dynamic speaker too, which could be hard to replace. Buy the vibrator replacement and rub some dirt on it, or stuff it into the ugly old can.