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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2025 14:24:23 +0000 Subject: Re: Rewriting SSA. Is This A Chance For GNU/Linux? Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc References: <pan$54963$b3f3d4e6$ae35ff46$71fe05c9@linux.rocks> <gXCdnTD2YLRBaHX6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> <m4tf1dFmvh3U1@mid.individual.net> <vsd0ui$365s0$1@dont-email.me> <vsds7u$2u8h$1@dont-email.me> <wwviknpb1iw.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vsksb5$3df6l$1@dont-email.me> <ZI2dnQjwJajG9XP6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <m581c7Fd22eU2@mid.individual.net> <DJOdnXslWrdAbHP6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <m58mnpFguqjU2@mid.individual.net> <vso5qc$31clb$1@dont-email.me> <E2WdnXiNaZ9CTXL6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> <pan$f2307$df5236a$923c4908$a6fb4a1f@linux.rocks> <6BidndvG26Vec236nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <vsr383$2421k$1@dont-email.me> <Tz2dnbEsYvaaHmz6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <vss108$2vde2$6@dont-email.me> <MI-dnf3_6bzzM2z6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> <vt1d6c$e0sl$2@dont-email.me> <TsudnYL_HJhO12n6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> <1834560e02e32793$90856$735129$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> From: c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 10:24:22 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1834560e02e32793$90856$735129$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <jRWdnXZpyLYKrGj6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 59 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-SrjZ1JbKzOGOUJnTwUYI5vfGCqsDZjveZEe8Nm4VOTIN56Gd66PLDtgAnEF6oOMz1CjWTWBQqrhN14I!vs/XNqzaXIGJWmThFN1LhVfnMvS28iAoKSBxnZM8W2sjG7g2rUh82RxOy9D+DcItaGzlKr0S7KTI X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4767 On 4/8/25 7:59 AM, Farley Flud wrote: > On Mon, 07 Apr 2025 17:59:45 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> >> Indeed ! However ... probably COULD be done, it's >> a bunch of shifting values - input to some accts, >> calx ops, shift to other accts ....... lots and >> lots of rheostats ........ >> > > How is conditional branching (e.g. an if-then-else statement) > to be implemented with analog circuits? It cannot be > done. Ummmmmm ... a lightly-latching op amp maybe, "IF (v1) > (v2) THEN amp = ON" ? > Analog computers are good for modelling systems that are > described by differential equations. Adders, differentiators, > and integrators can all be easily implemented with electronic > circuits. But beyond differential equation sytems analog > computers are useless. > > The Norden bomb site of WWII wan an electro-mechanical > computer. It's job was to calculate the trajectory of > a bomb released by an aircraft and the trajectory is described > by a differential equation. Note those kinds of systems require the use of something called 'dithering' ... essentially a small mechanical vibrating device. This would help overcome the natural 'stickiness' of parts on parts, making finer actions possible by adding just a little chaos. Some pure-electronics systems use a form of 'dithering' too. https://www.planetanalog.com/can-adding-noise-actually-improve-system-performance/ > One of my professors told a story about a common "analog" > practice among engineers of the past. To calculate an integral, > which can be described as the area under a curve, they would plot > the curve on well made paper and then cut out (with scissors) > the plotted area and weigh it (on a lab balance). The ratio > of the cut-out area with a unit area of paper would be the > value of the integral. (Multi-dimensional integrals would > require carving blocks of balsa wood or a similar material.) That's impressively clever ! > Of course it worked but today integration is easy to perform > to unlimited accuracy using digital means. Most things are ... but at the cost of great complexity and often power consumption. IF you can find ways to make use of 'natural calculations' they may be worth using, or at least including in the mostly-digital machine. If Ohm's law can do near-instant floating-point calx it MAY be easier to have a tiny circuit of a few resistors and then read it with an A/D converter than to do all the calx step by dozens/hundreds/thousands of digital instruction steps.