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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <jYuLdyb3wUaZnGslIjrvLGEeMaw@jntp> JNTP-Route: nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Why can't relativists understand =?UTF-8?Q?this=3F?= References: <13f24519606de3eb063e94f4f373dce3@www.novabbs.com> <gxf-xtoav7yCC4BeP63_-L8KzAI@jntp> <661f09027ab685644e9cd1469528bc34@www.novabbs.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: lnWHtFGf5hzUFpQ-JyQrwJkbNMk JNTP-ThreadID: 13f24519606de3eb063e94f4f373dce3@www.novabbs.com JNTP-Uri: https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=jYuLdyb3wUaZnGslIjrvLGEeMaw@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/1.0 JNTP-OriginServer: nemoweb.net Date: Tue, 19 Nov 24 22:06:19 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/131.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-11-19T22:06:19Z/9111212"; posting-account="4@nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> Bytes: 2827 Lines: 32 Le 19/11/2024 à 22:39, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit : > I do not buy length contraction either. I don't see any relevance to > your speculations. Whether you agree or not, it doesn't change much. As a general rule, no one agrees with everything I say, proof that what I say is interesting. I visit a lot of sites, a lot of sects, a lot of forums, a lot of journalistic articles, and believe me, everyone has members. A miraculous phenomenon (in the literal sense of a miracle) is the fact that I have none, and that is what proves the quality of my positions and my all-round reflections. But it is not important whether we agree or not. The sect gurus teach that the Martians will come to Earth, and they have thousands of members, and the rest of humanity follows the general right-thinking. It is the immense human stupidity that counts the followers to know if someone is lying or not. We then reason with the fork. There is dilation of the chronotropies (this is the effect that I call the internal Doppler effect, the transverse term being to be banned), if we add the elasticity of the external Doppler effect, this gives the indisputable equation t'=t.(1+cosµ.v/c)/sqrt(1-v²/c²). We find the same equation for the lengths. l'=l.sqrt(1-v²/c²)/(1+cosµ.v/c) and again the same equations for the relativity of electromagnetic waves: λ'=λ(1+cosµ.v/c)/sqrt(1-v²/c²). R.H.