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On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 08:19:03 -0700, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Jun 2024 11:50:05 +0100, Martin Brown
><'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On 21/06/2024 14:05, john larkin wrote:
>>> There was a thread somewhere above about photon wave/particle duality.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is worth reading:
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/How-Laser-Happened-Adventures-Scientist/dp/0195153766
>>> 
>>> Einstein, in one of his fits of genius, predicted in around 1916 that
>>> under the right conditions, a photon could pass by an excited atom and
>>> the atom would kick in another photon, or add to the wave amplitude,
>>> depending on how you feel about these things. He called it stimulated
>>> emission. He also declared that the laws of thermodynamics made this
>>> effect impossible to use in practical situations.
>>> 
>>> In 1951, Charles Townes invented a work-around trick and built the
>>> maser, a gaseous microwave oscillator. His superiors thought he was
>>> crazy to dispute Einstein and almost threw him out of grad school, but
>>> it worked.
>>
>>More interesting still nature beat him to it.
>>
>>The natural source W3(OH) dense molecular cloud which has hydroxyl 
>>masers pumped by UV bright young stars embedded in it.
>>
>>Very bright ultra narrow band point sources on a fuzzy nebulous object.
>>
>>https://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/pdf/1981MNRAS.194P..25S
>>
>>> What's interesting is that any decent neon sign shop could have built
>>> a HeNe laser in 1920.
>>
>>They would have needed to make the mirror just cavity right though.
>
>I know a guy who built a HeNe. It wasn't hard.
>
>T>
>>A nitrogen gas UV pulsed laser is possible just by getting the pressure 
>>right and creating the  population inversion. Self starting - there was 
>>a (dangerous) experiment in SciAm Amateur Scientist column to do it 
>>sometime in the 1970's. June 1974 in fact - cover shows the BZ reaction.
>>
>>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-amateur-scientist-1974-06/
>>
>>The failure to discover fullerenes in soot was a lot more surprising 
>>since they were there all the time since the invention of fire just 
>>waiting to be extracted by benzene. For a long time space dust had a 
>>spectrum that could not be reproduced on Earth by any known compound.
>>
>>Much like Helium was in the sun but more pervasive.
>
>Too many powerful old farts declare things to be impossible.

..<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck%27s_principle>

This is often paraphrased as "Science progresses one funeral at a
time".

Joe Gwinn