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From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org>
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Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 04:11:54 -0500
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On Sun, 16 Feb 2025 22:33:09 -0500, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2/16/2025 4:31 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>  
>> I have personally not seen anyone die or seriously injured by
>> electrocution via underground power cables.  Everything I've read or
>> hear is from 2nd or 3rd party anecdotal experiences.  The closest I've
>> seen is when someone tried to steal the copper power wiring in my
>> father's factory electrical panel and forgot to turn off the power.
>> RIP.  I'm sure electrocution by manhole cover can happen, but unless
>> the wiring and insulation are seriously compromised, the chances of it
>> happening is very small.
>
>When I worked as a plant engineer we had a plant electrician who was 
>electrocuted as he worked in a panel. It's too long ago for my clear 
>recall, but ISTR he was working on 480 Volts with equipment not designed 
>for that job.
>
>
>> <https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-overview/odds-of-dying/>
>> Looks like the National Safety Council lumps electrocution together
>> with some odd things that are not really related to electrocution:
>> Electrocution, radiation, extreme temperatures, and pressure 	
>> 1 in 14,383  (or 0.007%)
>
>While it's not the intent of the site, note the comparisons between 
>bicycling, walking and motoring (and other things) in lifetime odds of 
>death:
>
>Motor vehicle crash: 1 in 95 (almost as dangerous as death from falling, 
>1 in 91)  Much worse than bicycling.
>
>Pedestrian travel, 1 in 471, much worse than bicycling.
>
>Heck, even choking on food is worse than bicycling at 1 in 2461
>
>Odds of death from bicycling: only 1 in 3102.
>
>Bicycling is _not_ very dangerous. It does us no good to pretend it is.

"Bicycling is _not_ very dangerous. It does us no good to pretend it
is."

Danger, is of course, a subjective evaluation, but even so, bicycling
is probably more dangerous than standing in front of a classroom or
playing a tonette. Bicycling is probably the riskiest thing that
Krygowski has ever done.

--
C'est bon
Soloman