Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail
From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: Exploding pagers
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 11:01:07 +0200
Lines: 45
Message-ID: <jfhqrkx4ce.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
References: <vcch5i$3klpd$1@dont-email.me>
 <rv0kejddm69cioik17oeujstlfig16jn4o@4ax.com>
 <66ea0aa9$2$1427964$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>
 <o14kej5uskn75jvlhh0u3bof3jdjhvvpsm@4ax.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: individual.net tvXW0u3ZvI79A7svSNkGZwdLM1/1MPPaDW0eDDi6VoO6qFg6rT
X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail
Cancel-Lock: sha1:+gP9TEpsOpMiU+tL5KVwn+oRMJA= sha256:AwKXGeEkdhZ1GtDGzPk5DBHV7ZeuGRwjojOk2qmjsg4=
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA
In-Reply-To: <o14kej5uskn75jvlhh0u3bof3jdjhvvpsm@4ax.com>
Bytes: 2935

On 2024-09-18 01:32, john larkin wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 19:03:45 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/17/2024 6:39 PM, john larkin wrote:
>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:18:26 -0500, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pagers, even with a cheap LiPo battery that fails, do not explode.
>>>> Somebody built hundreds, maybe thousands, of intentionally booby-trapped
>>>> pagers and then managed to distribute them to a large group of targeted
>>>> individuals.
>>>>
>>>> This absolutely screams "state actor" but all of the states that would
>>>> be capable of pulling it off have disavowed any connection, as would be
>>>> expected.
>>>>
>>>> Posting is on-topic for s.e.d because these things had to be *designed*.
>>>>    Targets can be expected to cross security boundaries so these pagers
>>>> had to look like normal pagers under X-ray, and had to not "smell" like
>>>> explosives.  Putting aside, for sake of discussion, the horror of the
>>>> device itself and the evil necessary to conceive and deploy it, one has
>>>> to on some level, admire the skill required to manage it.
>>>
>>> It's assumed that the Israelis booby-trapped the batch of pagers that
>>> were bought by Hezbollah. Fiendishly clever.
>>
>> They probably got a few militants among the thousands of civilians
>> injured, only credulous Americans would believe there was any kind of
>> highly rigorous methodology as to how they were distributed.
> 
> I understand that Hezbollah bought the pagers for their own use for
> secure communications, so Hezbollah people mostly got them.
> 
> Collateral damage is to some extent inevitable in war, but the
> Israelis are not terrorists. Hamas and Hezbollah are.

Israelis invented terrorism when they planted a bomb in the King David Hotel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

But discussing any of that is off topic in this group.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.