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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Shadow <Sh@dow.br> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: blood pressure Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 09:47:54 -0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Shadow Lines: 64 Message-ID: <jk42ojp8g94fs412nouostpopgh33t9ouo@4ax.com> References: <sn5nnjpdrvoep7vicul1709kdqu1a03seu@4ax.com> <rm8nnj9sv49s9qrk5bj69jrpk951vjkcv8@4ax.com> <hXVfP.800203$ZAue.12966@fx12.iad> <q4s0oj5vc2ghnipteb0fgtm65275cf4dst@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 13:47:59 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="932a91a127aaaac7185fd95ba39ddf79"; logging-data="37424"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18uIDpHO7wPR+j8oXweaPyPAUp7CfObM6I=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:KTWPA0xqMvM1PAgan2dpLhnYEzA= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Bytes: 3645 On Fri, 10 Jan 2025 08:02:42 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote: >On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 20:02:21 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >wrote: > >>On Mon Jan 6 16:37:28 2025 John B. wrote: >>> On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 04:12:38 -0500, Catrike Rider >>> <soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >My last bike ride was Christmas Eve. I haven't ridden since then due >>> >to health concerns. I reported last week that although my wife was >>> >very ill with the flue, I had escaped it, which may have not been the >>> >case. Although my temperature remained near normal, I did have other >>> >issues, the most serious was a dramatic increase in my blood pressure. >>> >My normal systolic pressure is under 120 and for several days last >>> >week it was above 130, one morning it was 139. >>> > >>> >First thing this morning is was back down to 121/77, and now after >>> >breakfast it's 114/59. >>> >>> Average BP for "Old Men" is in the range of: >>> >>> 60+ years Woman -139/68 mm Hg ,Man - 133/69 mm Hg >>> https://www.hri.org.au/health/learn/risk-factors/what-is-normal-blood-pressure-by-age >>> -- >>> Cheers, >> >> >>Remember that is only an average blood pressure. > > >That was the point - the average "normal" pressures for different >ages. > >It might also be remembered that "low" BP is also not good... see > >https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/low-blood-pressure/symptoms-causes/syc-20355465 Optimal blood pressure is when it does not significantly increase cardiovascular risk (heart attacks and strokes). That would be <140 over <90 for middle age and over. Any other values are big-pharma crap. My grandparents lived to their 90's (one had her 103 birthday). Their average blood pressure was in the region of 130/90. 3 of them died due to complications from LOWERING their blood pressure far too much. New WHO "blood pressure guide". 18 of the 19 "experts" admitted to funding by big pharma..... Also, the best treatment for high blood pressure is losing weight, cutting out salt, doing exercise and if necessary diuretics - chlortalidone, not hydrochlorothiazide(the latter has a short half life, the former does not matter if you miss a dose due to long half life, the elderly tend to forget). Only if that does not work should you start thinking about other drugs. Cue #FAKE_NEWS_GUY to tell me that proves vaccines are bad... LOL. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 Google Fuchsia - 2021