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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.nobody.at!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Case Insensitive File Systems -- Torvalds Hates Them Date: Sat, 3 May 2025 13:52:51 +0200 Lines: 59 Message-ID: <jlchelx0p6.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <pan$4068a$3910f4f1$8cbecede$9e42905e@linux.rocks> <20250428080014.0000347f@gmail.com> <m79tdsF2bf6U1@mid.individual.net> <20250428111242.00007426@gmail.com> <pan$c046d$e87ef491$a3427b7a$ac576dbc@linux.rocks> <slrn1011nu8.46v.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <vurjl9$2pskn$1@dont-email.me> <slrn1013t50.1aev.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <vAGdnR-Fj9qGS4_1nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <slrn1016uic.2qk.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <vv24n5$rjdd$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net qyooxjtjmJp1NAmhOEr9NwPP6q3N5NZ/+/3gHgH5HxBuLNMe6e X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:O5O9NSG6s5dpxjZ068PbeNQoXlQ= sha256:f16t4sOH7HGtcyuzMSihfGy91qvrO8JVwBUvp6XDl4Y= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <vv24n5$rjdd$1@dont-email.me> On 2025-05-02 11:53, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 01/05/2025 14:42, Borax Man wrote: >> On 2025-05-01, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>> On 4/30/25 6:00 AM, Borax Man wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-29, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 14:18:48 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As for your file example though, you do demonstrate why one may >>>>>> choose >>>>>> upper vs lower case, Windows does allow that. But should they be >>>>>> *seperate* files? >>>>> >>>>> It should be your choice. >>>>> >>>> Well, you get to choose the filesystem you use. JFS2 if I recall could >>>> be case insensitive, but i would play havoc with the OS if you used it >>>> in the wron place. In Windows, can you make it case sensitive? >>>> >>>>>> However, I agree with your comment about unicode. Treating upper and >>>>>> lower case letters as the same, leads to complicated rules, which may >>>>>> vary from system to system, and cause chaos. >>>>> >>>>> Unicode seems to have come up with some standard set of “default” >>>>> rules >>>>> that are independent of any particular localization setting. >>>> >>>> These would need to be in a standard, one that filesystems can >>>> implement. But then filesystems would have to implement the same >>>> standard, otherwise, again issues arise. Can't see this being workable >>>> for end users. >>> >>> >>> So, in essence, the development of case-sensitive >>> systems ruined it for case-insensitive :-) >>> >>> Same now for space-tolerant file names. >> >> Case sensitivity does cause problems here and there, and it was >> initially confusing. >> >> But spaces in filenames cause me *far more* headaches. They are the >> greater evil. > > I LOVE spaces in filenames. > I guess if you use the command line a lot and parse file arguments using > spaces, its a bit irritating. > > But if you uses a GUI its no issue at all > Same here. And yes, I do scripts and it complicates them. Still... it makes filenames more readable. Book names, movie names, document names... I also like the colon ":" in filenames. It runs havoc with Windows users, though :-) -- Cheers, Carlos.