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From: Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
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Subject: Re: Disc Compatibility?
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 11:01:26 -0700
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 12:07:19 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 3/12/2025 11:58 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2025 10:16:04 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> (...)
>> 
>>> Can't push a top tube dent from the inside for starts.
>>>
>>> And reforming a dented panel always necessarily changes the
>>> area of the panel. Often minimally, but after crystal slip
>>> the piece is larger, inherently.  See micrographs and
>>> diagrams linked yesterday for further explanation of that.
>>>
>>> Beyond the well known principles of metallurgy, this is also
>>> a well known practical impediment to reforming metals in
>>> practice:
>>>
>>> https://carsprays.com/small-repairs-dents-scratches/reshaping-damaged-panels/
>> 
>> Problem with the above URL.  Near the top of the page, above the red
>> car wreck photo, is a large box containing various advertisements.  I
>> accidentally clicked on one that just said "click here to continue".
>> What I got was a simulated control panel, keyboard problems, flashing
>> lights, beeping sounds, and a lady announcing that I have violated
>> some contrived rule and that I should call some phone number to unlock
>> my computer.  Swell.  If you run into the same problem, turn off the
>> computer, wait about 10 seconds, turn it back on, and you should
>> regain control.
>> 
>> Also, thanks for the URL.  I have some dings in my car from trees and
>> branches falling.  The dings are not too serious.  I plan to deal with
>> it when the weather improves.  Of course, I also said that last year.
>> <https://www.harborfreight.com/automotive/auto-body-trim/auto-body/body-and-fender-set-7-piece-63259.html>
>> 

>heh heh heh.
>Yes we all learn not to click on those.

I doubt that anyone will believe me, but the last time I saw similar
malware was probably 5 years ago.  I can't say the same about my
friends and customers, who usually call me if it happens to them.
Also, I didn't really click the mouse this time.  The weather display
on my desk, fell on the mouse, which clicked the mouse button.
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/cLE9g4gbCjv34WRF8>

>I suggest you start with the smallest of the 
>easily-accessible-on-both-sides dents.  Those can often be 
>reformed without paint loss, a real bonus. And you'll feel 
>great after a victory!

Good suggestions.  I was going to start with the big dents and work on
the rest after I get some practice.  I've done this before, not this
messy.  I found this replacement fender, but $360 seems a bit much:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/cLE9g4gbCjv34WRF8>

>Removing dents is a straightforward process but on autos 
>dents seem to gravitate to places human hands can't reach.

Yep.  One dent is over the gas filler tube and door.  To protect the
tube and vent, Subaru provided some rather solid obstacles:
<https://photos.app.goo.gl/xTCSiawugFvvv9V6A>

Oh well, yet an other deferred maintenance project for summer.



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