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From: Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: FREE GAME: Borderlands 2
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 13:40:26 -0400
Summary: Copying or reuse for AI training or data sets not allowed
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On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 16:10:05 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

>Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 13:01 this Friday (GMT):
>> On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 20:06:04 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
>><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Thursday free games again, but this time on Steam and not Epic! It's a
>>>mind-shattering difference!
>>>
>>>* Borderlands 2
>>>https://store.steampowered.com/app/49520/Borderlands_2/
>>>   This game doesn't need much introduction so let's talk 
>>>   about the why. Is it because "Borderlands 4" is coming 
>>>   out or because Randy Pitchford keeps getting himself in 
>>>   trouble with his mouth? I think it's a little from column A, 
>>>   and a little from column B. Also, this version has banned 
>>>   mods and made some pretty unnecessary changes to the EULA 
>>>   which fans are understandably mad about. 'Cause why let 
>>>   a good thing go to waste when you can piss off the fans, 
>>>   right Randy?
>>>
>>>
>>>But if you still just want the game, grab it before it goes un-free in
>>>two weeks.
>>
>> I think this is the first game being given away for free that I bought
>> and paid for awhile back. I am guessing this has happened to you
>> already. :)
>>
>> Recent reviews are Overwhelmingly Negative. I am sure that has
>> something to do with what you mention above.
>
>
>Something about how the EULA is extremely anti-consumer, I think.

Gearbox has taken notice and commented on the issue. The primary
complaints are that they've granted themselves the right to use a lot
personal user information however they want (which is why gamers are
calling them 'spyware' now), and that the use of /any/ mods can lead
to permanent banning  (US gamers also have to endure forced
arbitration).

So Gearbox has issued a statement that even though they've got the
RIGHT to collect and use all that info, they've no intention of
actually do so... and that they've no problem with mods so long as
they aren't used for cheating.

But rather than adjust their EULA to reflect this, they've just asked
gamers to trust them. And --especially after Pitchford's outbursts
earlier this week-- gamer's aren't having any of it. (Pitchford, of
course, also had to personally chime in on the subject, because he
doesn't know how to shut up).

Take Two is trying to hype up the release of "Borderlands 4" and yet
they keep shooting themselves in the foot. They need to gag Pitchford,
don't make any negative moves with any of your properties (like adding
nasty EULA provisions or taking shit away from players), and --at this
point-- make some serious to your players and maybe they will get some
marketing momentum back. 'Cause right now "Borderlands 4" is looking
increasingly toxic.