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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Byte Addressability And Beyond Date: Wed, 01 May 2024 12:08:32 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 15 Message-ID: <jwvcyq5qzxr.fsf-monnier+comp.arch@gnu.org> References: <v0s17o$2okf4$2@dont-email.me> <v0s744$l3v$1@gal.iecc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Date: Wed, 01 May 2024 18:11:38 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="355afa7bda22e0dc028252a95b58ac46"; logging-data="3428113"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/9VfaP7lXdtQSXjgaFSbfxXYE7ITjkv6s=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BgnGVJfAZj8pzXPTDIg28W3ACWM= sha1:iAXupXO1Op8C67+zFr5SShwhntk= Bytes: 1595 >> I guess the idea of going all the way down to bit-level addressing >>was considered a bit extreme? > > STRETCH had bit addressing. It added a great deal of complication for > very little benefit. In the relatively rare situations where you want > to handle bit fields, shifting and masking is good enough without > slowing everything else down. Bit addressing doesn't have to be expensive: the DEC Alpha could have decided to use bit-addressing simply by ignoring/trapping more of the lowest bits than it did. Bit-addressing doesn't necessarily mean you can LD/ST at bit-granularity. Stefan