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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 17:50:24 +0000 From: Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Curve Tracers Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 12:50:24 -0500 Message-ID: <k78sjjpc3c41aae7ts86nomls9a94f4lbg@4ax.com> References: <vhkhcg$2ip8$2@dont-email.me> <o50sjjpmjmrdbvs9po8inhcdn961a0923g@4ax.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 40 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-XlEj667VGHDBtOuMmh/LpNAXBBAbn7coEy1Y4mBsz8biVqaO7jagTXZszXIa2wXdTkWfpBwQnO7jVlj!ubKCpi2PAmCqmQh3tMiExj/LD29DpZBB1hfxksm0Z4JHRKS7WFOuiP9sgUbyhpDeBR1u/pY= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2622 On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 07:40:08 -0800, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote: >On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 11:32:32 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom ><cd999666@notformail.com> wrote: > >>Gentlemen, >> >>Curve tracers reveal useful info about the dynamic characteristics of >>semiconductors and make designing for same much more predictable and >>dependable than relying on spice models and simulation alone. But they're >>typically rare beasts and expensive to come by and boat anchor varieties >>are seriously heavy and bulky. >> I think therefore that a curve tracer would make an excellent project, >>using the X&Y inputs of a scope as the display. Has anyone here attempted >>this? I'd be interested to know what the main challenges are likely to be. >> >>-CD > >I've considered it. It would be much more valuable if it traced >capacitances too. > >The display should be on a computer and the data archived. > >I often just set up a breadboard and test parts. Last week I blew out >some power mosfet gates. Some have internal zeners; this one doesn't. > >Most mosfets drain avalanche, but the voltage is never specified, in >fact deliberately hidden. I have to measure that. A good curve tracer >should measure that too. > >Currents should go down to picoamps. > >The fact that there aren't many curve tracers for sale suggests a >small market. I think that the function is now done by a Fluke Data Bucket (or equivalent) in an ATE (Automatic Test Equipment) that controls collection of data, which is later plotted in a computer. Joe Gwinn