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Path: ...!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 18:59:39 +0000 From: john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Instead scopes Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2024 11:59:55 -0700 Message-ID: <k7h1djpv5uuvhik7o2lm4tr3mbpbgtpk6n@4ax.com> References: <vakogj$316hg$1@dont-email.me> <4vtrcjpl9sp0lurrtf3ldcmhm58de156oo@4ax.com> <val7f8$33hu3$1@dont-email.me> <8f2tcj1832r0m6872hvp1fcrv8hsf3chsh@4ax.com> <vam90i$3bn2f$1@dont-email.me> <gjeucj5a7skeruudj8qcujc1f9b9t9o26r@4ax.com> <vanf8s$3h5er$1@dont-email.me> <mtjucjdqe2f91c2jsjp6011k0uvakuimog@4ax.com> <vapi6t$3u8ij$1@dont-email.me> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 67 X-Trace: sv3-HKYGCP03oQYEiGNwvGUzjzqthuQiixdDbJXyQzg8/m+rk3YWv8SXP6dTzhEurPNOyZYJk6VxsbbEVMN!yBFe1JxlFDNWLGyc0oF1Zc7VENgx0ju/j3oWeNNXBLNuITPiylR3lVE4F0FHEP2+BvreAWW7kMPk!8BzGl4I= X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4301 On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:23:19 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >On 29/08/2024 2:32 am, john larkin wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 15:21:00 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn >> <ksi@koi8.net> wrote: >> >>> john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote: >>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2024 04:28:02 -0000 (UTC), Sergey Kubushyn >>>> <ksi@koi8.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 14:55:32 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid >>>>>> <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> Wrote in message:r >>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT), Martin Rid<martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:>Anyone own the gds-1202b ?>>Any good?>>$350 at tequipment>>CheersI haven't tried that one. We like the Rigols.I recently acquired a Siglenthttps://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XZML6RD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1and gave it to one of my engineers. I'll ask him how he likes it.It has an up-front DEFAULT button, which a digital scope needs to getyou out of nightmare states. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Other than the lack of software features, the 200mhz bw for 350 >>>>>>> dollars is intriguing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> It sounds pretty good to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://siglentna.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2020/02/SDS1000X-E_DataSheet_DS0101E-E04C.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> What's missing? >>>>>> >>>>>> I like the 500 uV/div. >>>>> >>>>> If you want to save the last penny, maybe. But you can get way better scope >>>>> for slightly more -- Rigol DHO800/DHO900. It is 12-bit, same 550uV/div, has >>>>> all standard serial protocols decoding, very light and compact, can work >>>> >from a battery with USB-C power connector, way better than that Siglent that >>>>> feels like relic next to those DHOs. >>>> >>>> We use almost all Rigols at work. My slow bench scope is a 500 MHz >>>> DS4034 (upgraded from 350 MHz) >>>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/ns08x686afbayjsw8c2ab/h?rlkey=iu4h89057t755pueg4ijnldbo&dl=0 >>>> >>>> and my fast scope is a Tek 11802 sampler. >>> >>> I also have one, 11801C. Couple of SD-24s, SD-20, and SD-22 heads :) >> >> At the original purchase price, adjusted for inflation, I must have >> half a million dollars worth of sampling heads. >> >> The color grading and jitter measurement is great on the 11801C, but >> the old B+W screens photograph better. >> >> I'll miss my 11802 when it eventually dies. >> >> The TDR is great. I'm going to give my new kids a lecture on >> transmission lines, and I'll show them some TDR. >> >> It is apparently possible these days to get an EE degree and be >> completely ignorant of transmission lines. Or even electricity. > >Or a least to be able to react to John Larkin's insultingly trivial >questions in a way that leaves him thinking that. > >Maybe he didn't understand the answers. You're impossible to talk too. Your only motivation is to insult.