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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <JL@gct.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Datasheet-flation? Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 06:00:11 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <k8frkjpafquuqm8dde4ptgcocog4kqvool@4ax.com> References: <1r3hwoc.n2yk211k1an2yN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vhu82r$23cv5$1@dont-email.me> <1r3ix4d.1yypjir8hoviuN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vhv4k3$27kpu$2@dont-email.me> <vhvpl2$2ar1i$5@dont-email.me> <1r3jhb1.ks7h3uj4pk00N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vic61m$1a5ji$3@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org> <1r3sfq2.1p1qdnk1d8sh9wN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <cvvo1lx4lu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <victje$1644r$1@dont-email.me> <v5sp1lxv75.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2024 15:00:11 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5d73daf68fc9993b9a096e0ba91381b7"; logging-data="3542999"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/mEir0jmlyv3NX6zjVGDZl" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:5CSgaoeQZpAiMwdwbgWqu9H1lnc= Bytes: 2922 On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 23:35:11 +0100, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >On 2024-11-29 18:32, Jeroen Belleman wrote: >> On 11/29/24 15:33, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2024-11-29 15:22, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>>> Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2024-11-24, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> [...] >>>>>>> the English and American "billion" was >>>>>>> harmonised many years ago at one thousand million so there's no >>>>>>> confusion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can you give a reference for that? I haven't found one. >>>>> >>>>> https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04440/ >>>>> SN04440.pdf >>>> >>>> Thank you, that clarifies the situation. The English Billion still >>>> exists but in 1957 British Ministers were told to use the American >>>> meaning as it was considered "International" by the then Prime Minister. >>>> >>>> Obviously it cannot be completely international if there are still >>>> countries using it to mean Bi-million nowadays. >>> >>> And languages. Spanish, in Spain at least, a billion is a million >>> million. So one has to be careful when translating. >>> >> >> All this abundantly demonstrates that we're better off using the >> metric prefixes instead. It'll be next to impossible to make >> politicians and finance accept that though... > >Right! > >Or notations like 5*10^9 or 5E9 (calculators did this. Do they still >do? 5E9 is very simple) 10^9 = 1e10 in some places.