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On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 14:28:06 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 11/15/2024 1:48 PM, William Hyde wrote:
>> Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>=20
>>>
>>> Where is all of this electric power going to come from, especially=20
>>> since we are shutting down 100+ coal power plants per year in the USA=
 ?
>>=20
>> As I understand it about 170 are due to be shut down between now and=20
>> 2030.=A0 And given that delays in this field are not uncommon, I =
suspect=20
>> the actual number will be less.
>>=20
>> Since we shut down our coal plants fifteen years ago, the number of=20
>> respiratory alerts in Toronto has gone from thirty per summer to one =
or=20
>> less.
>>=20
>> That alone made it worth the cost.
>>=20
>> William Hyde
>
>Yeah, I should have put SWAG on that 100 per year number.  The USA has=20
>204 coal power plants left.  About a dozen or so here in Texas.  Nine of=
=20
>the coal power plants I worked at in the 1980s have been shut down in=20
>the last 15 years.
> =20
>https://www.statista.com/statistics/859266/number-of-coal-power-plants-b=
y-country/
>
>Good luck on getting China to shut down their 1,161 coal power plants.=20
>They are adding a new coal power plant every week still in China (SWAG).

But are they using bag houses?

Trying to keep them from not generating the power they need is
pointless; trying to get them to use modern tech may not be.

>Bag houses on the exhaust gas would have stopped the flyash in the air=20
>problem.  Your old coal power plants probably just had electrostatic=20
>precipitators, if that, which only get 80% of the flyash on a good day.=20
>Bag houses are 98% effective but require more exhaust gas fans due to=20
>their pressure drop (1/4 inch wall thickness woven metal bags).
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"