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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Disgraceful! Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 11:29:00 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 20 Message-ID: <kf6cpjldcids4liui3idp1i2tsmli1e47k@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 12:29:02 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9537d2be95bbee70883ec9eb261840e4"; logging-data="3907821"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/w718Cm6C+Z40yxHtacXs6jV4poUTVOmQ=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:TYXuAtaT4B2t5R4iNMyxm8dsCNc= Bytes: 1988 Gentlemen, I never ceases to amaze me that for all I've learned about the theory side of electronics over the years, my construction skills have not improved one iota since I was about 10 years old. Case in point: https://disk.yandex.com/i/zGA2slnrNWqGjQ I cobbled this board up to automatically turn on the water supply when the soil moisture fell below a certain amount. I've got 240V/10A wires juxtaposed next to low voltage signal interconnects and components with the insulation smeared through by careless use of a soldering iron all secured with blobs of hot melt glue and many of the component lead ends close to shorting out. It's obvious I've paid scant regard to layout considerations as you can tell. I'm posting this so John Larkin can see for himself that having the ability to visualize 3-D apples with insects etc is of no help whatsoever in laying out boards. Now you might say, "Well, it's only a prototype, CD; it's not as if you were going to actually use this thing as it stands" to which I'd have to confess that was indeed my intention! Appalling, isn't it?