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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: CERN cuts ties with Russia , will expel hundreds of scientists by December Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 08:43:07 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <kiivej5c0qre29ai7mq31go9icv4vkpgt8@4ax.com> References: <vclqgt$hgbt$1@solani.org> <vcltuj$1h8e9$1@dont-email.me> <vcm51d$hmvp$1@solani.org> <vcmcm4$1j9bp$1@dont-email.me> <vcmoqf$f7gd$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2024 09:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="37075eba0d2a9d38ad4ff413a5b35451"; logging-data="2250070"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18yjVifqoYWJNZUBvqtr3DAW3XDUArQPA0=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:QjGKSZUeENNLeoizpbZwTlLFNCA= Bytes: 3818 On Sat, 21 Sep 2024 15:30:22 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote: >On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Sep 2024 22:03:02 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman ><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vcmcm4$1j9bp$1@dont-email.me>: > >>On 21/09/2024 7:52 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Sat, 21 Sep 2024 17:51:34 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman >>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vcltuj$1h8e9$1@dont-email.me>: >>> >>>> On 21/09/2024 4:53 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>> CERN cuts ties with Russia, will expel hundreds of scientists by December: >>>>> https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/09/cern-will-expel-hundreds-of-russia-affiliated-scientists-by-december/ >>>>> But Geneva-based organization will retain ties with Joint Institute for Nuclear Research. >>>>> >>>>> So maybe then Russia will get some more usable stuff than CERN ever did >>>>> CERN will still work as bomb shelters though. >>>> >>>> CERN does fundamental rather than applied research - not a distinction >>>> that Jan Panteltje has the wit to understand. >>> >>> Dear slow-man script >>> Please have you creat-tor remove the part that insults every-body >>> doing so would improve your status as a humming bean clone. >> >>I don't insult everybody - I just insult ignorant clowns like you, and >>it's incidental to the business of pointing out that they have got stuff >>wrong. If you were a slightly less ignorant clown you'd be aware that >>copying John Larkin's insults isn't a winning strategy. >> >>>> Of course the research that lead to the atomic bomb was just as >>>> fundamental, and few people expected that it would be of any practical use. >>> >>> What did lead to the a-bomb was Curie and a room sized lab >>> and some thinking by Enrico Fermi. >> >>That does miss out quite a lot. Lise Meitner was the first to recognise >>that fission was going on. >> >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lise_Meitner > >Some read, lots of politics.. >The fishicks is interesting though. > > > > >>> The Italien Navigator Has Landed: >>> https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/fermi-produces-the-first-nuclear-chain-reaction >>> All in small labs to start with >> >>Strictly speaking, Fermi didn't quite get to a self-sustaining chain >>reaction in the University of Chicago squash court - which wasn't a >>small room - though he did get pretty close, and quite close enough to >>justify the next steps. >> >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Pile-1 >> >><snipped nonsense from Russia Today> > >He who does not want to see is effectively blind. >That also goes for bots of course :-) Bill prefers sources like Wikipedia, which any damn fool can edit - and plenty have.