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On Fri, 12 Jul 2024 10:08:17 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 10:00:05 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 7/8/2024 9:18 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 7/8/2024 8:11 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>> On 7/7/2024 11:13 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> On 7/6/2024 10:59 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/6/2024 8:18 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In the real world of Canada, Britain, Ireland, Germany, Netherlands,
>>>>>>>>> Spain, Australia, New Zealand, etc. etc. policies like that work 
>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>> very well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's only one of the reasons I wouldn't want to live in those
>>>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it might be noted that in none of the countries Frankie has named
>>>>>>> does the country's basic laws (dated to 1789) include the right to
>>>>>>> "keep and bear Arms"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right. As I've said before, our constitution was groundbreaking. But 
>>>>>> it was never perfect, and in many ways it was and is faulty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other nations were able to examine our constitution, note its faults 
>>>>>> and correct them when writing theirs. One common correction is not 
>>>>>> letting every whacko buy and use rapid fire weaponry designed for 
>>>>>> military use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What's rapid?  A revolver?
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHG-ibZaKM
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't think of anything on earth which hasn't been applied to 
>>>>> military purposes (David, sling, 5 stones...)
>>>>
>>>> there's a big difference between being designed for military use being 
>>>> "applied" and used for warfighting purposes.
>>>>
>>>> I know you know the difference, I also know you're deliberately 
>>>> deflecting the point.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> 
>>> No, I'm not. 'Military use' or 'purposeful military design' are not at 
>>> all clear or helpful terms.  
>>
>>bullshit
>>
>>> The best special forces sharpshooters use 
>>> very expensive precision single shot bolt action rifles, not crappy 
>>> 'spray and pray' automatics.
>>
>>And those weapons are purposely designed for accurate killing power at 
>>great distances - not your average high-powered hunting rifle with an 
>>off-the-shelf scope.
>
>You mean like the Model 30 Winchester used in Vietnam?
>https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-military-model-70-a-forgotten-sniper-rifle/
>The Model 30 was first manufactured in 1935 I believe
>https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2019/5/23/the-model-70-story-the-early-years/

I believe the .30-06 cartridge was developed for the military. OMG,
military ammunition that a civilian can buy.